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Hawaii and California's Huge Second Amendment Victory
Townhall ^ | July 27, 2018 | John R. Lott, Jr.

Posted on 07/28/2018 2:13:13 PM PDT by rogerantone1

Tuesday’s decision by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals means that people in the western U.S. will now be able to openly carry a handgun in public. The decision only applies to districts under the 9th Circuit’s jurisdiction, but it will likely soon affect the rest of the country. It is a huge ruling that strikes down existing state prohibitions in Hawaii and California.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; cprc; duplicate; lott; opencarry
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1 posted on 07/28/2018 2:13:13 PM PDT by rogerantone1
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the rights of the people to keep AND BEAR arms SHALL NOT be infringed!


2 posted on 07/28/2018 2:17:03 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( "Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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—if that only applies in the 9th circus court’s jurisdiction why do some of these other yo-yo judges injunctions (notably those on President Trump’s immigration orders) apply nationwide?


3 posted on 07/28/2018 2:18:51 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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Winning.

This is huge beyond comprehension, a massive setback to the gun control crowd.

Michael Bloomberg, your office is calling.

Now, more than ever, we need Brett Kavanaugh seated on the Supreme Court.


4 posted on 07/28/2018 2:22:16 PM PDT by alloysteel ("No" is a complete sentence. On so many levels.)
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To: rogerantone1

I hope Moonbeam says “Over my dead body”, and does us the favor.


5 posted on 07/28/2018 2:22:23 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists call 'em what you will they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rogerantone1

I believe that this verdict is by a 3 judge panel of the 9th Circuit. It can be overturned by a full seating of the 9th Circuit Court. This will likely be the final outcome in the 9th Circuit. Any and all verdicts can be appealed to SCOTUS. If this happens it is hoped that it is after Kavaugh is approved for the open Justice seat.

In any event if two circuit courts have opposing rulings on an issue it is then decided by SCOTUS. This issue is far from settled even with this small victory.

There is a long way to go in overturning California’s unconstitutional gun laws. Hopefully before I die so I can rest in Peace knowing that that Republic will survive with the cornerstone of the 2nd Amendment is intact. It is the foundation of our Bill of Rights.


6 posted on 07/28/2018 2:39:08 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry Bear formily known as Ursus Arctos Horrilibis (or U.A. Californicus))
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I thought this was only the ruling of a three judge panel. Doesn't the entire 9th Circuit have to rule on this if challenged?
7 posted on 07/28/2018 2:40:22 PM PDT by wmileo
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“people in the western U.S. will now be able to openly carry a handgun in public”

Gee, when I was a kid in the West, we never thought you needed to ask

Was 14 with a pistol in my holster and a 22 slung over one shoulder and a .410 on the other.

Cops sailed right past us, didn’t blink


8 posted on 07/28/2018 2:41:14 PM PDT by Regulator
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I’m going to share and then read it. I’ve always wondered the same thing but you have to know the lingo to get the answers. As bad as windows help. totally useless without exact terms.

https://news.law.fordham.edu/blog/2017/02/03/nationwide-injunctions-and-the-lower-federal-courts/


9 posted on 07/28/2018 2:44:48 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: rogerantone1

Shouldn’t it apply TO THE ENTIRE NATION? Why can a single thug in Hawaii shut down immigration law nationwide but an entire appeals court decision only apply to the left coast?


10 posted on 07/28/2018 2:46:32 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: rogerantone1; null and void; aragorn; azishot; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; Beautiful_Gracious_Skies; ...
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PING

11 posted on 07/28/2018 2:57:09 PM PDT by LucyT
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Bug: Your proposal is acceptable.


12 posted on 07/28/2018 3:00:54 PM PDT by null and void (Freedom is in our blood, we don't pass it down genetically, but through the blood we spill.)
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—thanks-—interesting—


13 posted on 07/28/2018 3:03:24 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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“The decision only applies to districts under the 9th Circuit’s jurisdiction,”

So how come when of the hack renegade Judges makes an outrageous ruling he/she makes it apply nationwide?


14 posted on 07/28/2018 3:05:50 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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Apparently, Hawaii lawmakers are going nuts over this. They are demanding an en banc appeal. I hope they do exactly that.

The 9th circuit would then be faced with a major dilemma. They already said there is no constitutional right to concealed carry. The ruling of the 3 judge panel was that that therefore must mean there is a right to open carry. So what does the 9th do? Either say there is no right to open carry - meaning there is no right to actually bear arms since you can’t do it openly or concealed. That then triggers an appeal to the Supreme Court which with Kavanaugh seated, likely overrules them and sets precedent requiring open carry nationwide....yes you New York and you Maryland and you New Jersey....you all have to eat it.

OR, the 9th has to agree with the 3 judge panel in which case Hawaii and California have to eat it and allow open carry.

HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

Of course we need Kavanaugh to be confirmed so we can get Supreme Court rulings striking down much of the gun grabber agenda.


15 posted on 07/28/2018 3:07:40 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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A stay is different from an adjudication. Any judge that has jurisdiction can issue a stay, which is suspension of the effects of a ruling, but an adjudication is a ruling that applies the meaning of the law upon which it is based.

At least to my limited barroom legal understanding.


16 posted on 07/28/2018 3:27:59 PM PDT by alloysteel ("No" is a complete sentence. On so many levels.)
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To: rogerantone1

i love it!!


17 posted on 07/28/2018 3:30:37 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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The 9th Circus ruled in favor of the second amendment?? Winning...


18 posted on 07/28/2018 3:37:47 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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If this stands. Means I can open carry to California? Would prefer to conceal. Same for Hawaii, like when I go their next month.


19 posted on 07/28/2018 3:41:55 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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> I believe that this verdict is by a 3 judge panel of the 9th Circuit. It can be overturned by a full seating of the 9th Circuit Court. This will likely be the final outcome in the 9th Circuit. <

You’re right. This was a good ruling. But it ain’t over until it’s over.


20 posted on 07/28/2018 4:01:40 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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