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Trump administration to hit Russia with new sanctions for Skripal poisoning
NBC News ^ | Aug.08.2018 | Josh Lederman

Posted on 08/08/2018 1:34:39 PM PDT by McGruff

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To: McGruff

Whi is Russia killing a Russian double agent in England any of our business? Shouldn’t this be England’s issue to deal with?


21 posted on 08/08/2018 2:36:45 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: McGruff

Where’s the evidence? No need to keep it secret.


22 posted on 08/08/2018 2:41:16 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
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Whi is Russia killing a Russian double agent in England any of our business? Shouldn’t this be England’s issue to deal with?

1. You're not supposed to do that on foreign soil.

2. If you're going to do that, just stab or quietly eliminate the guy, the agent they used was wildly dangerous and sent more than just the target to the hospital.

Which was Russia's intention: to set an example.

23 posted on 08/08/2018 2:50:56 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

You know the daughter lived in Moscow and her father wanted to return to Russia to be with his only surviving family?

Really NOT seeing Putin’s hand in a botched foreign operation that could have been handled at home

Only time novichok was used to kill was by a Latvian mafia hit. They purchased the agent from a scientist who sold it to others


25 posted on 08/08/2018 3:04:23 PM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Snickering Hound

Russia definitely had the motive.

By why use a nerve agent when they could of just paid a Muslim to cut his throat, and not trace back to Russia?

Why leave a plausible, if not probable link back to Russia?

How would that be in their interest?


26 posted on 08/08/2018 3:11:22 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: silverleaf

She looks pretty healthy for someone poisoned with one of the most deadly nerve agents known to man.

27 posted on 08/08/2018 3:12:25 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: Mariner
By why use a nerve agent when they could of just paid a Muslim to cut his throat, and not trace back to Russia? Why leave a plausible, if not probable link back to Russia?

To send a messy message: After being released from Russian prison Skripal was traveling to countries, including the Baltic States discussing Russian intelligence techniques.

28 posted on 08/08/2018 3:15:37 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: silverleaf
You know the daughter lived in Moscow and her father wanted to return to Russia to be with his only surviving family?

His son was already dead. So was his brother. And his wife.

What family?

29 posted on 08/08/2018 3:16:52 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

His daughter - came to England with family but returned and lived in Moscow, was engaged, age 33, planned on starting a family
His mother ( age 82)
Has various other relatives - Skripal cousin who tried to contact Yulia


30 posted on 08/08/2018 3:21:17 PM PDT by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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I don’t believe it is in Russia’s interest to do so.

It was definitely in their interest to kill the guy, but not at the cost of CW sanctions. They are severe if implemented.

For your scenario to be plausible, Russia would have intended to get caught using a nerve agent to kill a traitor to their state. On foreign soil.

When they could have easily killed him in an untraceable fashion.

It doesn’t add up. At least to me.


31 posted on 08/08/2018 3:47:54 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Maybe as a warning to Putin’s other enemies?


32 posted on 08/08/2018 3:57:47 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

A beheading on main street is a pretty good warning.


33 posted on 08/08/2018 3:58:35 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
It was definitely in their interest to kill the guy, but not at the cost of CW sanctions. They are severe if implemented.

For your scenario to be plausible, Russia would have intended to get caught using a nerve agent to kill a traitor to their state. On foreign soil.

Russia is already under significant sanctions from their invasion of Ukraine. Nothing to lose there.

And Putin is former KGB and may have taken Skripal's actions personally and want to set an example for other former agents that might try what he was doing.

34 posted on 08/08/2018 3:59:49 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Yep but that could be done by anyone. Using a Russian nerve agent thins out that crowd very quickly.


35 posted on 08/08/2018 4:00:40 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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They better provide some prof first. Because the lab that analyzed the poison said they could not tie it to Russia or anyone specifically.


36 posted on 08/08/2018 4:15:22 PM PDT by Revel
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Why did Russia keep him locked up for 13 years than release him...just to poison him later? He was a double agent, I’m sure no one would care if Russia just killed him when he was locked up.


37 posted on 08/08/2018 4:30:27 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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Why did Russia keep him locked up for 13 years than release him...just to poison him later? He was a double agent, I’m sure no one would care if Russia just killed him when he was locked up.

Putin wasn't President in 2010 when the spy trade happened, it was Medvedev.

The Brits insisted on Skripal being part of the trade for him and 3 other Russian nationals for 10 Russian spies captured in the US.

Medvedev gave him a pardon too.

38 posted on 08/08/2018 4:42:05 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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Well gee Wally, if you can’t believe British intelligence, who can you believe?


39 posted on 08/08/2018 5:08:37 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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“...if you can’t believe British intelligence, whom can you believe?”

Well, it all seems perfectly logical. According to the official narrative, the Skripals came in contact with the Novichok by touching the door handle of their house. (Note that Novichok is supposed to be ten times more deadly than VX.). After touching the door handle, they went to feed the ducks, then went for a drink, then went for lunch at Zizzi’s, at which they consumed a rich sea food dish of clams, mussels, king prawns, etc. all washed down with white wine. Then, five hours after the door handle contact, they went for their famous walk in the park.

And after falling sick from contact with the deadliest nerve agent known to man, they have made a full recovery.

So what’s not to believe?


40 posted on 08/08/2018 5:36:57 PM PDT by Hartmann
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