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To: Mollypitcher1

You know, while I believe that England’s role in WWI was necessary to save the Free World, I don’t think the overwhelming majority of their officers studied tactics nearly enough.


18 posted on 08/18/2018 4:24:41 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Islamic in NM killed 4 year old & trained kids to be school shooters.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

The basic problem with the English is the outgrowth of two things.
They are immensely JEALOUS of the U.S. Recently I was discussing WWII with a Brit. He repeated the bit about our soldiers being”over paid, over sexed, and over here.” When I expressed my opinion that”over here” should relate to the song “Over There” from WWI and the fact that Europe’s problems with Germany were their problems and should have been resolved after WWI. His attitude was much the same as the British and even the French generals that American soldiers should have been used to “strengthen” the Allied lines. IOW, he was still harboring the idea that General Black Jack Pershing should have put American soldiers under the command of the Brits and French to plug the holes where needed. Pershing insisted on American soldiers fighting under the American flag as American units. Pershing would not put raw soldiers into battle who had not received proper training. This also rubbed the Brits the wrong way. Our soldiers should have been cannon fodder just like their own soldiers were (under the outdated thinking of the Brit Field Marshal Haig.)
The immense help we gave England in WWII before we were in the fight is completely forgotten.
After WWII the Brits continued to suffer shortages in everything and the American soldiers went home to the land of “plenty.” They think we are spoiled and wasteful.
They think Socialism is a good thing and can’t understand why so many Americans resist it. At the same time they scream and yell about high taxes. Margaret Thatcher is hated by many Brits, just as Trump is vilified by many Americans.
We Americans must never forget that we are unique in the world as a people founded on the principle that the PEOPLE CHOOSE their government and that government rules WiTH THE CONSENT of the PEOPLE. Unlike the European in general, we threw off the yokes of Royalty. We Americans ARE different. We still have freedoms we should learn to protect against those who think they should be able to think for us. Our youth as a nation is a sticking point with the Brits in particular. France followed our lead and revolted against their monarchy. The French, believe it or not, published the first Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizens. The idea was that of The Marquis de Lafayette with the assistance of America’s Thomas Jefferson. The committee wrote the declaration and it was passed in October 1791, then signed by King Louis XVI. It became the cornerstone of the French Constitution.
You are correct in your belief that the Brit generals were still fighting with outdated tactics. Their “Over the Top” orders in the face of the new German Machine Guns was abject stupidity and the foundation of mass horror.
I’ve visited most of the battlefields of WWI and WWII in Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany and France as well as most of the cemeteries, including the grave of my favorite American General George Patton.


20 posted on 08/18/2018 8:00:58 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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