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Donald Trump is no one's fool as Russia is finding out
The Telegraph ^ | August 9, 2018 | Rob Crilly

Posted on 08/09/2018 6:23:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

We should know by now, shouldn’t we? Pay little heed to Donald Trump’s words and judge him by his actions.

So after the rambling tweets and that embarrassing showing in Helsinki – the one when he stood beside Vladimir Putin and said he accepted the Russian president’s word that Kremlin goons had not interfered in the 2016 election (Mr Trump later said he misspoke) - now we have the concrete action.

These come with dramatic consequences, from downgrading diplomatic relations to cutting off almost all exports and imports.

It represents a clear statement of intent by this administration. And sends a clear message to Moscow that it will be cast into the cold unless it submits to an international regime of inspections – a humiliating scenario for any world leader but all the more so for a strongman like Mr Putin who came to power and built his reputation as a figure intent on restoring national pride.

Of course, now we are all locked into our parallel universes, or bubbles, or echo chambers, reflecting pools or whatever you choose call them, this will not be enough for the critics. They will say that Mr Trump’s hands are tied by the 1991 law. He had no choice. And they will continue to claim – without evidence – that Mr Putin has some kind of compromising material that gives him a hold over the American president.

Or, on the other side, they will say he was pushed into it by the deep state officials who still control elements of the security apparatus. Coerced against his will into a policy he didn’t want. (That looks ludicrous in black and white, doesn't it?)

That’s not how it must seem in Russia today....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Government; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; angelamerkel; brexit; election2018; election2020; emmanuelmacron; europeanunion; finland; france; germany; helsinki; macron; nato; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; sanctions; theresamay; trump; trumpputin; unitedkingdom
How refreshing.
1 posted on 08/09/2018 6:23:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Pay little heed to Donald Trump’s words and judge him by his actions.”

His words speak to his actions. Otherwise, I wouldn’t bother listening.


2 posted on 08/09/2018 6:31:09 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Surprise surprise. How could the idiot smelly deplorable who voted for him have known?


3 posted on 08/09/2018 6:39:58 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Donald Trump is no one's fool as Russia is finding out

The Telegraph trying to rehabilitate their credibility?

What's so unusual about Law Abiding President Trump enforcing existing US Law?

He does the same with Illegal Alien Criminal violations of US Immigration Law, you Socialist shilling Telegraph.

4 posted on 08/09/2018 6:43:34 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Use the Russian Hacking hoax as the reason to tighten up all aspects of election security and information assurance.

Use the 9/11 attacks as the reason to continually tighten border security and immigration policy.


5 posted on 08/09/2018 6:53:22 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: rightwingcrazy

His words can appropriately be diplomatic. I’d expect no less of any President. The actions and inactions speak louder than words, as they do with all of us.


6 posted on 08/09/2018 7:55:13 PM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Why all this sourness among us? Better late to the party than never to arrive at all.


7 posted on 08/09/2018 8:20:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of us can’t read the entire article at the site without signing up.

That said, I would like to know what the evidence is that the UK supplied to the US to convince everyone Russia did the deed.

Not because I’m necessarily skeptical of it. I’m skeptical of all international dealings and US institutions. And UK. And Russia. And let’s not forget those Germans and Ukrainians.

You know, for the record.

What possible sources and methods could outweigh that knowledge for the people? Especially since they say publicly they have identified the agent and it’s source.

I’d think that if the US and UK want to dispel any doubts as to the legitimacy and efficacy of their assertion they would want to characterize and detail what evidence they possess.

I, for one, would want to know they have Russia dead to rights.

Or don’t.


8 posted on 08/09/2018 8:38:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I had to join to post the article in the first place.


9 posted on 08/09/2018 8:45:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Why all this sourness among us? Better late to the party than never to arrive at all.

Amen!

10 posted on 08/09/2018 8:57:43 PM PDT by Always A Marine ("When you strike at a king, you must kill him" - Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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“Mr Putin who came to power and built his reputation as a figure intent on restoring national pride. “

How dreadful! Good thing the US has a nice squishy marshmallow POTUS, who’s intent on removing national pride...oh, wait.


11 posted on 08/09/2018 10:20:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump did NOT say he believed the Russians. He said “My people came to me, Dan Coates, came to me and some others they said they think it’s Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it’s not Russia.

I will say this: I don’t see any reason why it would be. But I really do want to see the server but I have, I have confidence in both parties.”


12 posted on 08/10/2018 12:15:46 AM PDT by pacific_waters
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The old “Talk politely and come out swinging the big stick when they opt to not play nice” tactics...been a long time since we had such a Man as President.


13 posted on 08/10/2018 4:09:40 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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We’ll never see the DNC server, because the “hack” was an inside job to steal the RNC files. IMO the DNC was never hacked. Wiki leaks was just that, a leak, and the “Russians” never tried to hack the DNC server. They’re just saying that to cover their tracks.


14 posted on 08/10/2018 8:04:41 AM PDT by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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To: Eleutheria5

[How dreadful! Good thing the US has a nice squishy marshmallow POTUS, who’s intent on removing national pride...oh, wait.]


The problem is that the restoration of Russia’s national pride involves the conquest and annexation of its neighbors. Russia isn’t unique in its attitudes. And we’re not unique in our response, which is to resist the enlargement of the Russian empire, which is currently almost the size of Canada and the US combined.


15 posted on 08/10/2018 1:43:21 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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