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New evidence emerges of China forcing Muslims into reeducation camps
The Washington Post ^ | August 10, 2018 | Emily Rauhala

Posted on 08/10/2018 11:00:14 PM PDT by KingofZion

First-of-its-kind courtroom testimony here has corroborated allegations that the Chinese government has built a network of internment camps in western China where Muslim minorities are held without charge for “reeducation.”

Sayragul Sauytbay, an ethnic Kazakh Chinese national, said she crossed from China’s Xin­jiang region to Kazakhstan without proper papers after being forced to work at a camp where around 2,500 ethnic Kazakhs were being held for indoctrination.

“In China, they call it a political camp, but really it was a prison in the mountains,” she told a court last month packed with Kazakh villagers, reporters and a few tight-lipped Chinese diplomats.

Interviews by The Washington Post with 20 other people in Kazakhstan familiar with the experiences of ethnic Kazakhs in China, including three former detainees and more than a dozen people who say they believe a family member is in detention, provided similar accounts of the camps, with additional details.

Taken together, their statements provide new evidence of extralegal detention and forced indoctrination in Xinjiang, revealing how the government, which has been predominantly targeting ethnic Uighur Muslims, also is detaining members of other, mostly Muslim groups, including Kazakhs.

People who have recently arrived here from China told of villages with checkpoints and countless security cameras and scanners where those suspected of having foreign ties can be interrogated, held without charge and sent to “reeducation centers” indefinitely.

At these camps, Muslim minorities spend their days singing propaganda songs such as “Without the Communist Party, There Would Be No New China,” and their nights in crowded cells, they said. One man released from a camp said he had been waterboarded.

In April, Laura Stone, acting U.S. deputy assistant secretary of state for China, said at a briefing in Beijing that “at least” tens of thousands of Chinese Muslims are in detention. ***MORE

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; eastturkestan; islam; kazakhs; muslim; torture; uighurs; uyghurs
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Biting my tongue
1 posted on 08/10/2018 11:00:14 PM PDT by KingofZion
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To: KingofZion

Good, kill them, they are all enemy combatants....ALL.


2 posted on 08/10/2018 11:02:54 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.)
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To: KingofZion

Next up tlqbg ? Some reeducation is needed there too.


3 posted on 08/10/2018 11:07:08 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: KingofZion

Against the constitution here, but I agree with the chicoms on this. They probably do it to Christians too but the media won’t bitch about that


4 posted on 08/10/2018 11:12:02 PM PDT by Figment
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To: KingofZion

And the problem is?


5 posted on 08/10/2018 11:14:35 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: KingofZion

So the chinese get something partially right.

Wrong type of camp.


6 posted on 08/10/2018 11:18:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: KingofZion

You cant teach morality to evil.


7 posted on 08/10/2018 11:20:03 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: KingofZion

Well, I’m okay with it happening on China


8 posted on 08/10/2018 11:25:03 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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To: KingofZion
So? Maybe they gave the choice: (1) Renounce and re-education or (2) Death.

This is China's problem to solve and they can kill every Islamic cult follower for all I care.

9 posted on 08/10/2018 11:28:03 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
So, what's the downside?.

10 posted on 08/10/2018 11:41:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: KingofZion

Japan keeps them out. Better approach.


11 posted on 08/11/2018 12:00:37 AM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: Figment

The persecution of Christians in China is different. They are not viewed as intrinsically against the state. You can be, in many or most case, as is true in the US both a devout Christian and a loyal citizen of the PRC.

The Muslims want to establish their own Islamic third world slum carved out of the far Western Provinces. If the PRC lets them go they have to let Taiwan and Tibet go. If that happens then they have to deal with the independence movement in Hong Kong and Macao. Then what do they do when the Cantonese speakers and Fujianese speakers stand up and say “We don’t even speak the same language!”?

Not that the PRC is always right, just or good in the way it treats Christians but what persecution there is comes for different reasons. Primarily (At least in the persecution of Protestants) the persecution is caused by Christians standing against the corrupt and criminal local government cadres.

At least that is is my experience


12 posted on 08/11/2018 12:10:47 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: KingofZion
The Washington Post cries crocodile tears and wrings its hands over muslims.

Yet the Washington Post is chomping at the bit to put white people and Trump supporters in "reeducation" camps. The Washington Post is fine with censorship, and anti-white racists on editorial staffs.

Myself, with muslims, I'm reminded of "sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind". The muslims have been killing, looting, raping, and pillaging for over a thousand years. Nothing that happens to them is bad enough. That will have to wait for Hell.
 

13 posted on 08/11/2018 12:27:01 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
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To: Fai Mao

Why do we still hear so much about the underground church then, and the state interfering in religious ceremonies? Do Chinese Christians now have access to the Bible in Mandarin? Are they free to worship in any Christian denomination or do they have to attend a state-approved church?

As much as I detest the ideology that is Islam, I don’t think locking them up for re-education is the way forward. This is the communist way though, the state rules supreme.


14 posted on 08/11/2018 1:41:08 AM PDT by winslow
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To: SmokingJoe
And the problem is?

Replacing one toxic ideology with another is not the answer

15 posted on 08/11/2018 2:03:03 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: KingofZion
New evidence emerges of China forcing Muslims into reeducation camps

And?

Bagster


16 posted on 08/11/2018 2:05:20 AM PDT by bagster ( "Even bad men love their mamas.")
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To: KingofZion

The Chinese are the only ones unafraid to deal with a Muslim invasion. They don’t put up with it. They crush it. There will never be Muslim “no-go zones” in China. They would just kill all the Muslims before they would let that happen.


17 posted on 08/11/2018 2:30:22 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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To: KingofZion

After reading all of the comments here , I can understand where some say “if you do this to this group where will it end ?” BUT , Islam is not a religion . Islam is nothing more than a militant theology wrapped in a quran ...these animals are to be terminated with extreme prejudice if you want a somewhat free society . Simply look to where these heathens spread outside of there original countries (it is/has been another form of islamic warfare) and you see them populate and enter politics in order to promote the evil sadistic theology . I have no empathy for these braindead souless pieces of S__t... If they want to exist let them stay where they were born and continue to fight with one another as this is all these inbred animals seem to understand. I hope I got my point across.


18 posted on 08/11/2018 3:37:46 AM PDT by mythenjoseph
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To: KingofZion

Camps are a step down from the neutron bomb tests carried out over the Uigurs villages in the 80s ... If re-education does not take hold, then maybe its time to use a proven method ...


19 posted on 08/11/2018 3:49:29 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: KingofZion
camps in western China where Muslim minorities are held without charge

I'm glad the Moslems get to go to these camps without charge. Moslems tend to be pretty poor and likely could not afford the pto go to camp if there were a charge.

20 posted on 08/11/2018 3:50:57 AM PDT by arthurus (gttthju4*9)
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