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Five Points bar criticized after black staffers let go, customer turned away
The State ^ | August 18, 2018 | DAVID TRAVIS BLAND

Posted on 08/18/2018 12:23:15 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

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If the owner didn't want hip-hop "music" played in his bar he should have made it clear to his staff.

The only reason he had to give was, 'it's my bar and I decide what music is played'.

1 posted on 08/18/2018 12:23:15 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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The location is Columbia, South Carolina. Columbia is the site of Riverbanks Zoo, a really nice place, and some cool historic cemeteries.


2 posted on 08/18/2018 12:26:12 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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I've seen this happen to restaurants where the clientele slowly shifts to all black.

In the end, they close.

3 posted on 08/18/2018 12:27:08 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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Just play Country and Western music only. That should send them scurrying for the exits.


4 posted on 08/18/2018 12:31:52 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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Maybe the neighborhood changed? Sounds like the guy is shooting himeself in the foot so-to-speak. Didn’t complain about the amount of business or profit, just the the skin color of his customers. Stupid. And if he didn’t like the music, since he owned the place, why not change it? Anyway, the idiot will deservedly be out of business before the end of the summer. Good riddance.


5 posted on 08/18/2018 12:32:56 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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Me too


6 posted on 08/18/2018 12:36:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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A non story, one of the black employees was asked back and refused. Moving on.


7 posted on 08/18/2018 12:38:40 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To be fair to Mr. Shmanske (the owner), the only source for his alleged remarks is a now-former employee. There may be a grudge involved.

That said, the whole thing does seem like an ill-judged business move.

I have no idea about the neighborhood, myself. The zoo and the cemetery (and road construction, gah) exhaust my experience of Columbia. I posted mainly to save others the trouble of figuring out where the events occurred.


8 posted on 08/18/2018 12:43:30 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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I no longer listen to Country and Western but did when I was young but your remark is Racist and wrong!


9 posted on 08/18/2018 1:09:41 PM PDT by Herman Ball (2)
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And if he didn’t like the music, since he owned the place, why not change it?

That may be the issue.

The owner may have not clearly set the rules about which music should be emphasized. He could have asked for a general mix of pop music.

The black manager may have used his own discretion to play more hip hop because that's what HE liked.

Face facts. Hip hop will attract a specific clientèle just as country & western or heavy metal would.

If the manager was stressing hip hop and the clientèle changed dramatically I can see how the owner may take issue.

If that's the case the owner should have made it clear what music he wanted played in his bar. He didn't have to give any other reason than to say it's his bar.

10 posted on 08/18/2018 1:12:28 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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The manager was white. It says so in the article.


11 posted on 08/18/2018 1:19:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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Country and Western are the only two kinds of music anyway.


12 posted on 08/18/2018 1:20:14 PM PDT by wally_bert (Terrific! Terrific? Harve Nyquist never ordered any radials.)
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What kind of music do you usually have here?


13 posted on 08/18/2018 1:34:17 PM PDT by Autonomous User (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.)
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Immediately after Sutton, who is white, was fired in early July, the entire staff was ordered to reapply for their jobs; although at least two African-Americans were invited back, none of them has returned

Yes, you're correct. That slipped by me.

Sorry for my confusion.

14 posted on 08/18/2018 1:38:57 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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I haven’t been to Five Points since last century. With the frequency it’s been in the news lately, I’d say things have changed


15 posted on 08/18/2018 1:42:38 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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Modern journalism is difficult.


16 posted on 08/18/2018 1:43:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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Dress code ban on solid-colored shirts?


17 posted on 08/18/2018 1:44:23 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Columbia is where you get sent when you’ve been bad but Hell is full.


18 posted on 08/18/2018 1:48:56 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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Columbia was where people from Charleston went for better weather and healthier conditions. Hard to believe, isn’t it?


19 posted on 08/18/2018 1:51:52 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Fill in my standard rant.)
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A bar gets shut down when it becomes a problem for the police. There was a bar next to UNC-Greensboro that started to have some trouble. So they started adding Beach Music Night and Country Night.
We had a hip-hop club here and it got shut down quickly. Too many brawls and shootings. And we are a small town in the Appalachian hills.


20 posted on 08/18/2018 1:52:55 PM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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