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1 posted on 08/23/2018 10:16:07 AM PDT by Simon Green
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The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people’s money. ~Thatcher..


2 posted on 08/23/2018 10:17:18 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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3 posted on 08/23/2018 10:17:59 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who has introduced a Medicare for all bill, has said that the Mercatus study is “grossly misleading and biased “.

As opposed to Bernie?

4 posted on 08/23/2018 10:18:00 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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Medicare is not single-payer. With Medicare, you still have to pay for medical care


5 posted on 08/23/2018 10:18:12 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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So people that paid into it for 20-30-40-50 years, should just ‘Share’ it with young people that never worked a day in their lives?


7 posted on 08/23/2018 10:20:19 AM PDT by heights
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sure 70% selective polling - bet they can get even higher percent next poll.


8 posted on 08/23/2018 10:21:00 AM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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Well, the Republican controlled Congress didn’t see fit to repeal 0bamacare (as promised multiple times).

It has long been accepted that the end result of the ACA is single payer since aca will collapse under its own weight eventually.

The RINOs now have an excuse to move to single payer like they wanted to all along. Funny how ‘the will of the people’ matters only if in line with what the elites want.


9 posted on 08/23/2018 10:21:41 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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And the new universal Medicare cards will be delivered door to door by skittle-pooping unicorns. All paid for by “the rich” of course!

I understand the desire to not pay healthcare premiums. I pay a monthly premium for a plan that covers absolutely nothing unless it is is a catastrophic incident. I would like to not pay that, but I know that “free” healthcare is not the answer. There are many more ways to bring down the cost of health insurance, but Congress won’t do them because their donors and the gibsmedat army would revolt.


10 posted on 08/23/2018 10:24:11 AM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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I have a poll which says 100% of people want something for free.

Seniors pay medicare taxes every year they earn a paycheck, even after age 65. So they at least pay into medicare for many years before receiving benefits.

Granting Medicare benefits to a 20-30-40-year old without having paid any Medicare taxes is of course what they wish, but who pays for it?

As everyone here knows Medicare is already going broke.
Yeah sure, let’s give Medicare to everyone and make it go broke immediately!


11 posted on 08/23/2018 10:24:40 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/Pence 2020)
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And where is the money that pays for all this? I know many do not believe this but there is no free lunch without some, maybe many, unintended financial consequences


12 posted on 08/23/2018 10:26:24 AM PDT by mulligan (EeThe)
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I don’t believe that.


14 posted on 08/23/2018 10:30:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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I wonder how the question on this push poll was phrased?

I expect a to more of these “polls” in the months to come. Oh what a shock that whatever crapola the democrats are pushing this week is miraculously supported by an “overwhelming” majority of Americans!!


16 posted on 08/23/2018 10:33:33 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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Oh great. And Obamacare turned out so wonderfully. Lets give them another chance to really screw things up.

You would have thought that they would have lost all credibility because of the Obamacare screw up. But no, people are stupid!


17 posted on 08/23/2018 10:33:37 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Nobody polled me....nor any of my friends.


19 posted on 08/23/2018 10:34:15 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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Are those polled from the same group that said HilLIARy had a 99% change of winning?
20 posted on 08/23/2018 10:35:34 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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I wonder if that 70% will still want it when they find out they will be taxed at a much lower income and be in the 70% tax rate leaving them with just 30% of what their current income is.

Hmmm... doesn’t sound so great when it actually costs them money eh.

So they make under $20k a year now and don’t pay taxes. Next year with Medicare for all; their income will be the same but then they have to pay over half of that $20k in taxes leaving them $4k to live on all year long. Even with a sliding scale they will still lose money. The funds to pay for it has to come from somewhere. This will increase crime and getting paid under the table.

Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn’t be best to give them exactly what they ask for then listen to them cry like little babies when they find out what it costs THEM.


21 posted on 08/23/2018 10:37:45 AM PDT by Boomer (Beware The Obsessed Leftist Pit Bull Haters on FR. Same as Gun Grabbers.)
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Change that question to: Do you want Medicare for all even if your Medicare deduction goes from 1% of your gross pay to 15% of your gross pay?


24 posted on 08/23/2018 10:39:40 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jeffersons)
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The Socialists have the upper hand.


28 posted on 08/23/2018 10:48:04 AM PDT by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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I don’t believe it!


34 posted on 08/23/2018 10:59:06 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.)
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The GOP now owns “Obama Care” by design.


36 posted on 08/23/2018 11:00:10 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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