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Owner of 3D-printed guns company says he's selling instructions despite court order
The Hill ^ | 08/28/18 | Michael Burke

Posted on 08/28/2018 11:01:00 AM PDT by yesthatjallen

The owner of a company that makes blueprints for 3D-printed guns said Tuesday that he has begun selling instructions for making the guns despite a court order barring him from uploading the directions, The Associated Press reported.

U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik on Monday extended a previous ruling that barred Cody Wilson and his company, Defense Distributed, from uploading directions for 3D-printed guns to the internet.

Wilson said at a news conference that he began selling the instructions in the U.S. on Tuesday morning and has already received almost 400 orders, according to the AP.

He indicated he believes he has found a loophole to the court order allowing him to sell the blueprints. He said that the instructions will be sold to customers on a flash drive, rather than being available for download, according to Ars Technica. He also reportedly will only sell the files in the U.S. rather than internationally, potentially avoiding export regulations.

“Anyone who wants to get these files is going to get them,” he said, according to the AP. “They can name their own price.”

Wilson has argued he has a First Amendment right to publish the instructions, but Lasnik wrote in Monday’s court order that Wilson’s First Amendment rights “are dwarfed by the irreparable harms the States are likely to suffer if the existing restrictions are withdrawn and that, overall, the public interest strongly supports maintaining the status quo."

Nineteen states and Washington, D.C., had previously sought an injunction to thwart a settlement reached by Defense Distributed and the State Department permitting the company to upload 3D-printed gun blueprints to the internet. The states argued that public access to the guns would present a security risk.

The Department of Justice maintains that the State Department does not have jurisdiction in the case and that a domestic ban against untraceable guns is in place.

Lasnik issued a temporary restraining order last month barring Defense Distributed from uploading directions for the guns and held up that ruling Monday.

Wilsons said Tuesday that he will challenge Lasnik’s order. He also said he is raising money for a legal defense as he expects states will try to sue to stop him from selling the instructions, according to the AP.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 3dguns; 3dprinting; banglist; guncontrol; guns; ruling
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1 posted on 08/28/2018 11:01:00 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen
First Amendment rights “are dwarfed by the irreparable harms the States are likely to suffer

This judge has a fundamental misunderstanding of the differences between humans (who have rights) and governments (which have none). I'm sure it's intentional, which only makes it worse.

2 posted on 08/28/2018 11:04:49 AM PDT by relictele
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To: yesthatjallen

There is no delegated power given the federal to regulate the sale, manufacture, or distribution of Arms to prevent them.

The 10th Amendment is inclusive of all possible objects for government attention that are not converted by the enumerated Powers, they are all forbidden.


3 posted on 08/28/2018 11:05:11 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: yesthatjallen

So goofy. Anyone with a few tools, minor know-how, and some free time, can build a gun that would perform as well if not better than the 3d printed version.


4 posted on 08/28/2018 11:05:37 AM PDT by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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To: yesthatjallen
Wilson’s First Amendment rights “are dwarfed by the irreparable harms the States are likely to suffer ..."

"Your inalienable rights just became alienable because I am a judge."

5 posted on 08/28/2018 11:05:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: yesthatjallen

This is great News.


6 posted on 08/28/2018 11:06:12 AM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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To: yesthatjallen

What law does disributing these plans, other than liberals don’t like it? Are we at the point that judges can just ban anything they don’t like?


7 posted on 08/28/2018 11:07:27 AM PDT by Spok
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To: yesthatjallen

Clinton Judge appointee

https://www.fjc.gov/history/judges/lasnik-robert-s

Lasnik, Robert S.
Born 1951 in Staten Island, NY

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington
Nominated by William J. Clinton on May 11, 1998, to a seat vacated by Carolyn R. Dimmick. Confirmed by the Senate on October 21, 1998, and received commission on October 22, 1998. Served as chief judge, 2004-2011. Assumed senior status on January 27, 2016.

Education:
Brandeis University, A.B., 1972
Northwestern University, M.S., 1973
Northwestern University, M.A., 1974
University of Washington School of Law, J.D., 1978

Professional Career:
King County [Washington] Prosecutor’s Office, 1978-1990; deputy prosecutor, 1978-1981; senior deputy prosecutor, 1981-1983; chief of staff, 1983-1990
Judge, Superior Court of the State of Washington, King County, 1990-1998
Member, Judicial Conference of the United States, 2010-2016


8 posted on 08/28/2018 11:11:04 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: TheZMan

[So goofy. Anyone with a few tools, minor know-how, and some free time, can build a gun that would perform as well if not better than the 3d printed version.]

Yep, two pieces of pipe, a cap and a bolt.


9 posted on 08/28/2018 11:14:16 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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To: yesthatjallen
U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik is an ultraliberal Jewish man from New York City and a graduate of Brandeis. That is a pretty common configuration package for rogue judges. On the face of it, such a statistical distribution is weird. I have no idea why the dice shake out that way.
 
10 posted on 08/28/2018 11:15:19 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
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To: yesthatjallen
U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik is an ultraliberal Jewish man from New York City and a graduate of Brandeis. That is a pretty common configuration package for rogue judges. On the face of it, such a statistical distribution is weird. I have no idea why the dice shake out that way.
 
11 posted on 08/28/2018 11:15:24 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
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To: yesthatjallen

Heh, just heard this described as plans for “undetectable guns” on our totally technically illiterate MSM.
Would love to see that undetectable bullet, powered by undetectable gunpowder, etc.etc.
Good grief, there really is no lower limit for the intelligence of the modern journalist.


12 posted on 08/28/2018 11:16:51 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: yesthatjallen

Ah, the legal profession.
Pointed straight down, afterburners lit, allowing their technical (and pretty much everything else) lack of education to aid gravity in their quest to plumb depths of idiocy previously unknown to civilization.


13 posted on 08/28/2018 11:19:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: All

As Hitler said about the Pope: “How many Divisions does he have?”


14 posted on 08/28/2018 11:19:33 AM PDT by bennowens
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To: yesthatjallen

Information wants to be free. I’m just sayin’


15 posted on 08/28/2018 11:21:03 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: yesthatjallen

This is all much ado about nothing. The court injunction is absolute nonsense. The genie is out of the bottle and has been for a long long time.

The only new twist is the CNC metal milling machine they are selling to manufacture the firearm parts.


16 posted on 08/28/2018 11:21:28 AM PDT by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“...On the face of it, such a statistical distribution is weird. I have no idea why the dice shake out that way. ...”
Post Turtle Deluxe Model


17 posted on 08/28/2018 11:28:55 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: Da Coyote

“...there really is no lower limit for the intelligence of the modern journalist....”
They’re Deep State zombies with no brain. All they are is a loud speaker for DS.


18 posted on 08/28/2018 11:31:06 AM PDT by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: TheZMan

So far, manufacturing your own gun in your workshop is not illegal under US legal code.

Making a reliable working gun is a different proposition, but instructions may be gleaned from any number of sources, readily and legally available. That genie is out of the bottle.

The 3-D “printable” gun is not a practical device without a few key elements being extensively modified, and such modifications would totally obliterate the “undetectable” nature of the weapon when concealed.


19 posted on 08/28/2018 11:33:41 AM PDT by alloysteel ("No" is a complete sentence. On so many levels.)
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To: Da Coyote

Heh, just heard this described as plans for “undetectable guns” on our totally technically illiterate MSM.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Good article:

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/08/hundreds-of-millions-of-u-s-guns-are-unlicensed-and-untraceable/

Another term that is promiscuously used is “undetectable”.

We did not have metal detectors until the 1950s, at the earliest. Crime rates were about the same as they are today. If people needed to keep weapons out of jail cells, prisons, or, occasionally, a court room, they searched people as they went in. The TSA has found four 3D printed guns over the years. 3D guns have mass and take up space. They are *not* undetectable. Undetectable is just another scary buzzword.


20 posted on 08/28/2018 11:36:50 AM PDT by Qiviut (Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP!)
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