I decided to put this in News/Activism rather than the Religion Forum because it's more about Politics/Policy than it is about Faith and Morals.
On second thought, it's about both: the Politics/Policy being wrested away from the Church and used catastrophically against its Faith and Morals.
In short: the traditional, historic faith and morals of Catholicism would incline the Church-as-institution in exactly the opposite direction: against sexual predation and against Islamic invasion predation.
The spectacle of the Church acting against her own mandate as Church, is appalling. The walls and towers of the city have apparently been taken over by traitors. It's the Enemy inside the gates.
So my plea to Catholics and all others of good will: grieve but don't leave.
No fear, no flight.
It's time to fight.
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It’s the left. As for the Church, it should be concerned that Europe be Catholic and not turn to Islam. That’s basic.
2 posted on
09/08/2018 8:23:35 AM PDT by
Williams
(Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
To: Mrs. Don-o
When Pappa is a Socialist, what’d anyone expect ?
3 posted on
09/08/2018 8:23:39 AM PDT by
Eric in the Ozarks
(Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
To: Mrs. Don-o
The church is setting itself up for spiritual demise ( such as by not cleaning up its homosexual child abuse allegations) and physical annihilation ( by pretending that Islam prays to anyone but Allah-Satan, and by supporting/enabling the Islamic invasions into Europe and North America— extremely dangerous - it took The Spanish people over 700 years to get their Muslim conquerers out of Spain after the Muslims got in)
4 posted on
09/08/2018 8:49:03 AM PDT by
faithhopecharity
("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
To: Mrs. Don-o
Pope JPII addressed the issue of illegal immigration specifically in 1996 in the yearly, Papal address on immigration.
To paraphrase; illegal immigrants should be welcomed TO THE EXTENT THE COUNTRY IS ABLE. If a country is not able (reasons vary), they should help immigrants find another country or SEND THEM HOME.
Year after year, in spite of efforts by those of us on the border to beg the Bishops to include the above in their millions of pro invaders’ words, that admonishment from JPII was never or rarely quoted.
The Bishops seem more Democrat in the United States than Catholic. They ignore their American flock in favor of immigrants.
6 posted on
09/08/2018 9:07:55 AM PDT by
amihow
To: Mrs. Don-o
Dang 71%! I am Catholic and I don’t like this pope. I think he is more popular among leftists than he is among religious people.
To: Mrs. Don-o
‘grieve but don’t leave.’
you acknowledge the church has in effect become the enemy; you then urge not to leave...why would you advocate communion with your antagonist...?
To: Mrs. Don-o
I don’t want Francis to resign because Jesus gave us the structure of the Church. I don’t think this is blasphemous but it may be, I pray God takes care of it in a natural way, hopefully after his true conversion and repentance.
The other scenario I pray for is a true conversion, the likes of St. Paul’s conversion. I pray this for Francis and those priests blatantly choosing to live in sin.
10 posted on
09/08/2018 9:49:26 AM PDT by
tiki
To: Mrs. Don-o
I think news about this growing scandal needs to be in News and not be hidden behind the Catholic Caucus label.
To: Mrs. Don-o
20 posted on
09/08/2018 12:12:39 PM PDT by
Albion Wilde
(Ain't no reaching across the aisle in Hell.)
To: Mrs. Don-o
My thought is simple and direct.
Get the queers out of my Church.
23 posted on
09/08/2018 3:50:42 PM PDT by
A Cyrenian
(Nobody is perfect. And I'm nobody.)
To: Mrs. Don-o
24 posted on
09/08/2018 4:00:39 PM PDT by
A Cyrenian
(Nobody is perfect. And I'm nobody.)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Christ declared in Mark 13:20-26
20And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
21And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: 22For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
******23But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.*****
24But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
Before there was the formation of a church in Rome and all the ‘holy fathers’ and their made up traditions, Christ declared what would be. I have NO clue just who you think you are ‘fighting’, things are going just as was foretold.
Paul had a different notion than what was to be, as he held Stephen's coat while the ‘high’ and mighty religious folks stoned him... What was it that Stephen preached that caused them to so violently respond? That is basic Christianity 101.
According to Paul, who, got a one on one from Christ Himself on Paul's way to fight Christianity, stated in Ephesians 1:4 the ‘elect’, ‘saints’, ‘chosen’, were chosen ‘before’ the foundation of this flesh age. Do you have a clue what that literally means... NO man has power or authority to deem any a ‘saint’ and add to or take away from the Holy Scripture..
You are not going to like how things turn out.
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