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Russia using advanced missile system sales to drive wedge between U.S. and allies
Great Power War ^ | 9/14/18 | USA Features

Posted on 09/14/2018 4:20:42 PM PDT by SleeperCatcher

It’s understandable that the Chinese would seek the S-400, given Beijing’s lengthy ties to the Russian defense industry. But Turkey’s decision to buy the S-400 is particularly worrisome given that Turkey is a NATO ally and buying a weapon system from a great power rival of the alliance can be viewed as Ankara moving closer to Moscow in general.

Also, buying a rival country’s air defense system cuts down on interoperability, which NATO is working to improve as Russia continues to pose significant threats to European interests.

(Excerpt) Read more at greatpowerwar.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: allies; belongsinbloggers; missiledefense; russia; s400

1 posted on 09/14/2018 4:20:42 PM PDT by SleeperCatcher
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To: SleeperCatcher

That is a large part of what the war games theater extravaganza was about. Sales pitch for their weaponry.


2 posted on 09/14/2018 4:26:53 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

What do expect from a country named Turkey?


3 posted on 09/14/2018 4:33:29 PM PDT by trublu
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To: SleeperCatcher

The finger should be pointed at Turkey for doing this. They are (supposedly) part of NATO and has no business to make these types of purchases from anyone but a NATO ally.

The Deep State/NeoCon cabal overplayed their hand with almost daily propaganda to turn public opinion in favor of war, or a proxy war in Syria, with Russia.

A lot has to be taken with a grain of salt.


4 posted on 09/14/2018 4:48:19 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: SleeperCatcher

(1) Turkey is not an ally.

(2) Turkey should be kicked out of NATO.

(3) If Turkey disputes (1) or (2), they should give the US full access to the S-400 for intel, reverse engineering, and other purposes.


5 posted on 09/14/2018 4:50:46 PM PDT by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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If we don't have full knowledge of the S400 by now we should defund the CIA. It would clearly mean they have spent too much time spying on US citizens.
6 posted on 09/14/2018 5:13:56 PM PDT by BethelPatriot
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To: piytar
(1) Turkey is not an ally.

I was in Turkey in 1982. I feel the same way. I don’t think those clowns have EVER been our ally.
I thought it was the worst place I was ever at, in 20 years in the USAF.

7 posted on 09/14/2018 5:19:26 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: SleeperCatcher

There’s another way to look at this, though given that it’s Turkey that bought it probably not the case, but it gives us a chance to examine the weapon closely and determine its weaknesses.


8 posted on 09/14/2018 5:38:06 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: BethelPatriot

Agreed.


9 posted on 09/14/2018 6:10:12 PM PDT by piytar (If it was not for double standards, the Democrats and the left would have NO standards.)
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To: SleeperCatcher

Turkey is not our friend and has not been our friend for a long time.


10 posted on 09/14/2018 6:39:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: SleeperCatcher
Well, look who just showed up again: the most trusted names in journalism.






11 posted on 09/14/2018 6:44:41 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: SleeperCatcher

> Turkey is a NATO ally

Turkey is in NATO yes, but “ally” is highly disputable.


12 posted on 09/14/2018 6:51:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: familyop

I am going to start watching Boris and Natasha. Them and Bullwinkle. And Danger Mouse.


13 posted on 09/14/2018 6:53:24 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: SleeperCatcher

You can only destroy the world and kill everyone on it once. Selling everyone a weapon is a redundant effort to get to that point. If you give it to enough people from third world countries that have nothing to lose like North Korea or Turkey, and they have a nitwit leader that wants to go out with his name on TV, for about a a minute, then we really can’t do anything to stop it, can we, except make sure they don’t get it? Wasn’t that what was decided with Russia

U.S. president Dwight D. Eisenhower called for the creation of an international atomic energy agency Discussions on a nonproliferation treaty at the UN in 1959, and after multiple rounds of drafts, the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT) is signed on July 1, 1968. The measure recognizes the five existing nuclear-weapons states at the time—China, France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, and the United States—and guarantees other signatories the right to civilian nuclear technology subject to IAEA safeguards, but prohibits them from acquiring nuclear weapons capabilities. Lot of good that did.

So it has nothing to do with what they have, but who within them has it for use. And again, we. nor anyone else, has any say in it.

rwood


14 posted on 09/14/2018 7:28:13 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Mark17

During my time in Turkey in the 60s, we shipped in a lot of specially made antennas to listen in on the various Russian rocket ranges. The Turks refused to let us use them as they had not been OKed in advance. So the antennas just sat in crates and boxes out in the weather. In the long run it did not mater as the Russians switched over to land lines.

Then again, shutting the water off to our base was not friendly, nor the locals crawling up the hill to kill us all. (Local forces brought out the Arty and said would reduce the town below to rubble unless the nonsense ended; it did).


15 posted on 09/15/2018 3:53:18 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: rlmorel
Turkey is not our friend and has not been our friend for a long time ever.
16 posted on 09/15/2018 3:54:20 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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