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Trump Said to Want $200 Billion in China Tariffs Despite Talks
Newsmax ^ | Friday, 14 September 2018

Posted on 09/14/2018 8:00:24 PM PDT by cba123

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To: cba123

If Americans buy the tariffed goods because they are still a good buy, the tariffs will in effect be meaningless.


21 posted on 09/15/2018 6:16:35 AM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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There is always the possibility that tariffs might be raised, to provide further motivation.

A lot of people have been selling out America for a very, very long time.

A generation and a half, actually.

It is time to bring American production, back to America.


22 posted on 09/15/2018 6:22:11 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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For the record.....

We are now operating at near full employment. Many manufacturers can’t find qualified people.


23 posted on 09/15/2018 6:25:41 AM PDT by bert ((KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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If you say so...


24 posted on 09/15/2018 6:27:26 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: semimojo; Jim Robinson; All
There has never been “free trade” among countries. There is nothing sacrosanct about taxes on property, income, sales, imports, etc. A tax is a penalty.

Taxes run the government. The healthiest of taxes is one that encourages you to help your fellow tax payer down the street over helping some guy in China. Taxing income discourages earning reportable income. Welfare encourages people to get free stuff.

We had excise taxes from the creation of this country. It greatly encouraged our growth and independence, because those weren’t taxed. We became the single greatest country in the world in under 200 years due to that.

We do not exist to encourage any country’s growth but our own. If a citizen or company is cheating our supply chain out of the benefit that in-country taxation brings and has always brought, that citizen or company should pay a penalty. That they haven’t been shows they received benefits they, in the vast amount of our country’s history, did not have. They fundamentally disagree with our Founding Fathers and our history through at least the 1910s.

A lack of excise taxes is directly analogous to a country without any way to limit immigration. Both allow the outside to benefit without penalty, with the penalty only paid by that country’s inhabitants. If everything is perfectly healthy, both circumstances bring something that could help the country prosper with additional revenue generation we could not have achieved on our own. But, the reality is, there should be extremely little we cannot do on our own. When we do not encourage such “independence,” we are encouraging our destruction. Why not tax or limit negative behaviors? In discussing elimination of either untaxed trade or free immigration, we are not prohibiting the actions—we are merely taxing or limiting the velocity of the potentially bad behavior.

We are at an unhealthy juncture in our history. We have a Deep State, enormous national debt, huge numbers of unknown invaders, large percentages of people encouraging socialism, a general lack of understanding of the principles that served as the bedrock of our country, and a humongous government not capable of doing its fundamental job.

We need to unwind this. Our president is trying to do so, using methods the embedded cast of characters has difficulty countering, at this time.

I do not see any issue with using the excise tax. I also do not see anything wrong with reducing our income tax, either on business or individuals. Both are being done.

Do you not see how this is healthy?

25 posted on 09/15/2018 7:08:55 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: granada
He is trying, but having to deal with a mutiny, both parties tying him down, a Media that lies, and rogue investigations. The Congress must approve funds for the Wall, yet idiots take aim at Trump for following the Constitution because he must. If he takes actions around the edges, his own party will clip even those tiny wings, and they will do so, especially in an election year.

You, cba123, and others need a whipping out back, because you have no lick of sense about you. In a past life, were you the Jews who got Jesus crucified?

26 posted on 09/15/2018 7:17:42 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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