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12 pairs of dueling pistols
OOBJECT ^ | Unknown FR Post 9-22-2018 | David Galbraith

Posted on 09/22/2018 5:46:09 AM PDT by vannrox

Dueling pistols are strange, beautiful and ironic. Gadgets to shoot each other in the face, crafted with the delicacy and decorative extravagance of expensive jewelry.
They appeared in the 18th C, as faster firing versions of older, flintlock guns replaced swords. Their use dwindled in the 19th C, while duels were still fought in the Western US states. Here the less rich would engage in gouging, similarly prearranged combat, with the aim of plucking out the opponent’s eyes.
Dueling pistols were designed for the upper classes, for the preservation of honor. They were used illegally by generals and poets (Pushkin was killed in a duel), several US presidents (even Lincoln accepted a challenge to a duel) and were even presented, with no sense of irony, as diplomatic gifts.

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Dueling pistols belonging to Dracula inspiration, Henry Irving

Bram Stoker was a manager at the same theater that Henry Irving worked. He is thought to be the inspiration for Dracula. These were perhaps stage pistols, or the real thing, who knows.

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All metal dueling pistols given as a diplomatic gift from Scotland to Canada

The perfect Ironic gift.

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This pair of flintlock pistols is unusual becuase it includes secondary pistols for the duelers' seconds.

In some duels, seconds would also fire.

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Dueling pistols by the most famous shotgun maker, Purdey

Purdey are famous for making handcrafted shotguns for the aristocracy. These also come in pairs so that one is being reloaded by a servant while the other is being used.

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19th Century dueling pistols with a particularly fine case

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Space gun dueling pistols given by South American general to President Madison

Legend had it that these pistols were forged from metal from meteorites. This later turned out to be false, but the story of their provenance, is nonetheless weird, being made from very unusual alloys.

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18th century English dueling pistols bearing the Royal Warrant

The Royal Warrant is an emblem given for products used and therefore endorsed by the British royal family. Hence this is somewhat ironic for a set of dueling pistols, even if dueling was common among the nobility,.

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LePage 19th C French Dueling Pistols

LePage pistols were particularly sought after, and were the ones that Pushkin described being used by his character Eugene Onedin.

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A particularly elaborate pair of percussion lock dueling pistols

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The pistols used in the infamous duel between Hamilton and Vice President Burr

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Exhibition Set of Relief Engraved Gastinne Renette French Dueling Pistols



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1 posted on 09/22/2018 5:46:09 AM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox

I never quite understood why you needed at least two that were identical? Flies in the face of the age old adage that if you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics SUCK!


2 posted on 09/22/2018 5:58:19 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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To: vannrox

We could use a few good duels now-a-days.


3 posted on 09/22/2018 6:00:32 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: vannrox

What a great wedding gift!


4 posted on 09/22/2018 6:01:13 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: vannrox

i.e. lead arbitration.


5 posted on 09/22/2018 6:03:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Delta 21

I believe the idea was to make the contest as fair and even as possible, making the deciding variables solely the courage and skill of the participants. A truly parochial concept of honor.


6 posted on 09/22/2018 6:20:34 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Delta 21

They needed to be identical, so as not to give either party an advantage. There were rules for dueling. Indeed, the pistols themselves were supposed to be provided by the seconds, not the principals, as that would have presumably advantaged their owner.

The notion of gentlemanly honor at the time is nearly forgotten today.


7 posted on 09/22/2018 6:21:37 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: vannrox

The first Lovejoy novel, “The Judas Pair,” is a mystery that revolves around a set of dueling pistols. I would highly recommend it to any mystery fan.


8 posted on 09/22/2018 6:26:26 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: vannrox

Pedersoli makes a variety of replicas in high quality. Good shooters too.

https://www.davide-pedersoli.com/guns-rifles.asp/l_en/partenza_0/idl_1/pistols/pistols.html


9 posted on 09/22/2018 6:27:21 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: buwaya

“The Big Country” with Gregory Peck, great scene with dueling pistols at the end of the movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ioRMsPEf8o


10 posted on 09/22/2018 6:30:14 AM PDT by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: vannrox

Not all of these are dueling pistols.
Almost all pistols of the time (other than “pocket pistols”) were sold and used in pairs, not individually. A pair of pistols were not necessarily intended as dueling pistols, though of course any pair could be used as such.

For instance, a gentleman on a trip where some danger was anticipated would carry, besides his sword, a pair of horse-pistols on his saddle, the military standard of the day.

The Scottish steel pistols above are almost certainly not intended for dueling, but as part of a Scottish gentlemans traditional attire, of kilt and bonnet and such, which included besides a brace of distinctive Scottish pistols plus sword and dagger. Scotsmen went about armed to the teeth.


11 posted on 09/22/2018 6:32:12 AM PDT by buwaya
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rules for dueling


https://www.geriwalton.com/pistol-dueling-its-etiquette-and-rules/

One nineteenth century article concluded that dueling “is not only a useful method of resenting an injury, it is an admirable school of manners as well.


12 posted on 09/22/2018 6:34:14 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: vannrox

you can tell the author: it’s “OneGin” (not “oneDin”)


13 posted on 09/22/2018 6:49:38 AM PDT by leopud
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Pedersoli does some pretty nice reproduction pistols.


14 posted on 09/22/2018 6:54:18 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: vannrox

Is Flayderman’s still around ,they had tons of stuff like this


15 posted on 09/22/2018 7:07:40 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: buwaya

I was glad to see your correction. The post assumes every brace of pistols is for dueling. Something they got from movies I guess. Maybe it is the box that is making them think this? Simpler explanation and the truth is that a brace of pistols is just an example of what we call a “New York reload.”

In the movies the challenged pary gets to “choose” the weapons. So where are the pairs of matching dueling swords?


16 posted on 09/22/2018 7:18:35 AM PDT by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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To: Spok; buwaya
Oh, to be a time traveller with a Colt Walker or Sig Sauer under your trench-coat.
17 posted on 09/22/2018 7:20:41 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Splodeyhead is the only cure for MAGAphobia)
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To: Delta 21
Oh, to be a time traveller with a Colt Walker or Sig Sauer under your trench-coat

With that Colt Walker better have a pair, in more ways than one, to balance the big iron load.

:>)

18 posted on 09/22/2018 7:24:35 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: vannrox

Another great Cesare Danova plot for “The Rifleman”.


19 posted on 09/22/2018 7:34:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Delta 21

“fair fight”

It was about honor, not advantage, as in military tactics.

In fact, Aaron Burr was looked down on for actually practicing before the Hamilton duel.


20 posted on 09/22/2018 7:54:47 AM PDT by fruser1
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