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Pennsylvania Preparing to Deny Due Process for Gun Owners
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Posted on 09/24/2018 4:27:11 AM PDT by Bill_o'Rights

Monday (Today) and Tuesday(9/24-9/25) the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, spurred on by Speaker of the House Rep. Turzai, is slated to consider two bills that were tabled in June – HB 2060 & HB 2227.

HB 2060: https://foac-pac.org/Proposed-Pennsylvania-House-Legislation-HB2060/State-Law/3067

HB 2227: https://foac-pac.org/Proposed-Pennsylvania-House-Legislation-HB2227/State-Law/3111

(Excerpt) Read more at foac-pac.org ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; dueprocess; election2018; election2020; nra; pennsylvania; secondamendment
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These are both an affront to our Constitution at the state and federal level. What’s worse is that Pennsylvania Republican Leadership KNOWS this just as they know both expand the power of government at the expense of the Due Process rights of the accused with HB 2227 creating an entirely ‘new’ section of law involving suspension of ‘Due Process’.

UNLESS YOU (gun owners) speak out and DEMAND leadership pull these bills they WILL PASS - this is the result of the Parkland Florida school shooting media propaganda blitz.

1.) IF a Protection from Abuse (PFA) order is issued on you and you don’t turn in ALL your firearms, other weapons ‘and’ ammunition within 24 hours you will go directly to jail for 6 months (HB 2060)

2.) Completely ELIMINATES your ability to go to court and use the 3rd Party process to ‘legally’ surrender your firearms to a ‘friend or family’ member to keep them for you until the PFA is terminated (HB 2060)

3.) Forces you to pay a storage fee on EACH gun kept at a gun dealer or ‘commercial armory’ for up to FIVE years (HB 2060)

4.) Buy a gun, get reported and have your gun seized without ‘due process’ THEN to challenge this you MUST spend thousands of dollars on an attorney to go to court and ‘prove’ your innocence (HB 2227)

5.) Lose your rights by being reported, truthfully or not, by even decades old acquaintances and your property seized ‘without due process’ and forced to spend thousands of dollars on an attorney to go to court and ‘prove’ your innocence (HB 2227)

YOU MUST TELL PA HOUSE MEMBERS is to OPPOSE both bills! No Compromise, no Deals, no Amending either one as their core structure is irredeemably flawed.

The Talking Points on this legislation can be found below:

HB 2227 - https://foac-pac.org/uploads/talking_points/A-HB-2227-Extreme_Risk_Protection_Orders-FOAC-Review.pdf

HB 2060 - https://foac-pac.org/uploads/talking_points/A-HB-2060_pn3820-FOAC_Language_Problems-Final.pdf

To find the contact information for EVERY PA HOUSE MEMBER click here: https://foac-pac.org/PA-Legislator-Info

Focus your objections on the Judiciary Committee officials NOW!

CALL EMAIL WRITE

1 posted on 09/24/2018 4:27:11 AM PDT by Bill_o'Rights
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To: Bill_o'Rights

I shared this on twitter. I live in Michigan or I would get involved. Did you post this on the PA state board?


2 posted on 09/24/2018 4:53:20 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Bill_o'Rights

If you are watching what the Democrats are doing, you KNOW you wI’ll be needing those guns - SOON.

AND SO DO THEY!!!


3 posted on 09/24/2018 4:53:32 AM PDT by ZULU (MAGA)
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To: Bill_o'Rights

Bkmk


4 posted on 09/24/2018 5:06:25 AM PDT by moovova
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To: MarMema

I had not, please do if you are able


5 posted on 09/24/2018 5:09:18 AM PDT by Bill_o'Rights
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To: Bill_o'Rights

Message sent.


6 posted on 09/24/2018 5:13:53 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Trump: "I am Batman!")
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To: Bill_o'Rights
You take away my right to choose
7 posted on 09/24/2018 5:15:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Bill_o'Rights

Another Red Flag bill rears its ugly head. Confiscation, one citizen at a time. Even the horrid Lautenberg amendment required a misdemeanor conviction. All this needs is an angry ex pointing an accusing finger.


8 posted on 09/24/2018 5:31:54 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: Bill_o'Rights

Why are these tyrants tolerated?


9 posted on 09/24/2018 5:42:33 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Bill_o'Rights

Keep in mind this is what REPUBLICANS want to do to us.

You can just imagine what the Democrats will do if they ever get into power.


10 posted on 09/24/2018 5:45:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog; Bill_o'Rights

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Keep in mind this is what REPUBLICANS want to do to us.

You can just imagine what the Democrats will do if they ever get into power.
>

I know, let’s (RE)elect more “conservatives” (whatever THAT means)...so says the FR ‘(R) knee-pad brigade’.

I mean, just look at all the reduction of govt they’ve given us! *Looks around. Pulls up rocks* ....SOME where around here.

I’m sure if we just ‘hold their feet to the fire’, THIS time they’ll hear the voice of the People that put ‘em into office.

Sorry, but peeps gotta start looking beyond the plantation brand and see what issue(s)\position(s) these people take. The ‘less of 2 parties’ hasn’t been working for AGES.


11 posted on 09/24/2018 6:28:29 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Bill_o'Rights
From the main forum screen choose "account" and then "my locale" and then scroll until you find PA.

It's a really effective way to get this out to other people here from your state.

12 posted on 09/24/2018 6:30:19 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Bill_o'Rights

This is only a mild modification of existing laws.

The storage fee and stuff is new, but yeah - a friend of mine has a PFA against him (For no reason. I was there the night of the event and his girlfriend even stated that I threatened her) and his guns all went away. For more than a year so far, even though the PFA is defunct.

The PFA is still there because he had a marijuana possession 4 years ago, and the two added together meant they took his guns away. I don’t think they are ever coming back.

With this story, I have decided that Connecticut was more fair to me about my right to own and bear than PA, CO or AR is.


13 posted on 09/24/2018 6:31:50 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Bill_o'Rights

In fact it says there are 1258 PA freepers that you can share this with on the state board.


14 posted on 09/24/2018 6:32:13 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Bill_o'Rights

It’s going to be easier to hide a body than to follow the laws.


15 posted on 09/24/2018 6:36:12 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: MarMema

This nonsense needs to stop...and now!!! I live in PA and will be contact these phony freaking Republicans....


16 posted on 09/24/2018 6:36:52 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Bill_o'Rights; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; ...

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17 posted on 09/24/2018 7:01:04 AM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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To: PROCON

I would like to be added to your ping list please.


18 posted on 09/24/2018 7:47:19 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: WKUHilltopper
Why are these tyrants tolerated?

They have an "R" after their names.

19 posted on 09/24/2018 8:15:19 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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Don’t give a crap what is after their names...why are these tyrants tolerated?


20 posted on 09/24/2018 9:11:43 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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