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Elon Musk Is Squeezing Russia Out of Launchers Market, Space Chief Says
Moscow Times ^ | Oct 2, 2018 | Reuters

Posted on 10/02/2018 7:33:45 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

The head of Russia’s space agency has accused tech billionaire Elon Musk of trying to squeeze Moscow out of the carrier rockets market by lowballing prices for commercial space flights.

SpaceX has upended the space industry with its relatively low-cost Falcon 9 rockets. The company has completed more than 50 successful Falcon launches and snagged billions of dollars' worth of contracts, including deals with NASA and the U.S. Department of Defense.

Dmitry Rogozin, the head of Russia’s Roscosmos Federal Space Agency, told state-run television on Monday that Musk sells launches from $40 million to $60 million “to squeeze Russia out of this market.”

“We understand that this game is unfair,” he said on Channel One’s “The Great Game” political show.

Rogozin claimed Musk is colluding with the Pentagon, which he says “pays him on average $150 million for every launch.”

“He’s paid extra to enter the market with a cheaper product. Of course Russia can’t compete,” the former deputy prime minister charged.

Rogozin vowed to regain leadership in the space launch market with a new Angara heavy space rocket.

“You’ll check and correct me in two-three years.”

NASA is planning to send a manned test flight to the International Space Station aboard Musk’s Crew Dragon commercial spacecraft in April 2019. Moscow has suggested it would stop sending American astronauts to the ISS after the Russian-U.S. contract expires in April as bilateral relations continue their downward spiral.

Since the U.S. space shuttles were retired in 2011, Roscosmos has charged NASA an estimated $70 million for each seat aboard its rockets. Musk promises to undercut that significantly, charging around $20 million on his Dragon spacecraft.

(Excerpt) Read more at themoscowtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Japan; Russia
KEYWORDS: angara; dmitryrogozin; elonmusk; falcon; falcon9; israel; iss; japan; musk; nasa; roscosmos; russia; space; spacex

1 posted on 10/02/2018 7:33:45 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It’s called Capitalism.


2 posted on 10/02/2018 7:40:42 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Is it? Or is it crony capitalism (national socialism)?

I’m asking - I don’t know the particulars here.

I don’t have a problem with a country protecting critical defense infrastructure though - so maybe if we are subsidizing Musk here it might be worth while.


3 posted on 10/02/2018 7:44:50 AM PDT by TheTimeOfMan (A time for peace and a time for war)
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To: onedoug

Beat me to it. It’s called the “free market”. I know it’s a relatively knew concept in Russia.


4 posted on 10/02/2018 7:46:27 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: onedoug

Yep. SpaceX charges less because it costs them less.

The Pentagon pays more because they require extra services.


5 posted on 10/02/2018 7:47:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: TheTimeOfMan

SpaceX actually uses some off the shelf parts. They manufacture a lot of their own parts especially when suppliers jack up the prices.

Vertical integration and what Musk calls first principles engineering is what makes their costs significantly less.


6 posted on 10/02/2018 7:53:32 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

He did take a bite out of their business. But don’t worry Russia, our government is busy prosecuting him now. He pointed out a pedophile and that is the third rail over here.


7 posted on 10/02/2018 8:14:55 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Free market, Free enterprise, competition

3 things that the Russians are not used to. Perhaps they should start thinking beyond their old Soviet technology.


8 posted on 10/02/2018 8:29:02 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I don’t know why so many people hate Elon Musk.

Seems to me he’s doing great things for America. Taking back control of space is just one of them.


9 posted on 10/02/2018 8:53:06 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: onedoug

“It’s called Capitalism.”

Yes, and so the completely worthless SEC f*cks with Musk. This country could use 100 more Musks willing to do for a reasonable price what Musk has been doing.


10 posted on 10/02/2018 8:53:23 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: DannyTN

Agreed. We need more Elons if anything. And Russia shouldn’t have dominated the market for so long in the first place.


11 posted on 10/02/2018 9:54:47 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: TheTimeOfMan

https://amp-timeinc-net.cdn.ampproject.org/v/amp.timeinc.net/fortune/2017/06/17/spacex-launch-cost-competition?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s


12 posted on 10/02/2018 9:55:27 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

We were busy making Muslim countries feel good about themselves. :(


13 posted on 10/02/2018 9:57:18 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Free markets suck. /s


14 posted on 10/02/2018 11:11:18 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Rogozin claimed Musk is colluding with the Pentagon, which he says “pays him on average $150 million for every launch.” “He’s paid extra to enter the market with a cheaper product. Of course Russia can’t compete,” the former deputy prime minister charged.
Charged? That's not a charge, it's merely a slight spin of reality for a bureaucrat who grew up in, and continues to live in, a police state. SpaceX isn't launching astronauts yet, but when SpaceX does, it'll be putting them in orbit and earning a profit for half the money NASA's been paying to our enemies.

15 posted on 10/07/2018 10:25:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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