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Some Amazon employees say they will make less after the raise
Yahoo Finance ^ | October 3,2018 | Krystal Hu

Posted on 10/03/2018 11:49:00 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: babble-on
I never saw a paragraph about the stock grants and the thousands of dollars worth of bonuses.

I'm assuming that the bonuses and stocks were earned by productive workers. Unfair to slackers!

21 posted on 10/03/2018 12:05:17 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Hojczyk
But for some Amazon employees, the excitement didn’t last very long as they learned that existing financial incentives and bonus programs, including stock and monthly bonuses, that usually boost paychecks will be eliminated starting November 1.

Amazing! Amazon actually has to fund the pay raise? Why don't they just create money out of thin air like the federal government does?!

I especially liked the provision that Amazon's worker compensation will no longer be incentive based. Now all of its employees can compete for being the laziest worker without being fired.

22 posted on 10/03/2018 12:05:27 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: Hojczyk

WHAT??? They expecy me to pay for everyone else??? Bernie never told ME this shit!!!!


23 posted on 10/03/2018 12:11:07 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Hojczyk

Be careful what you wish for.

The employees are just more roadkill on the left’s highway to socialism.


24 posted on 10/03/2018 12:13:43 PM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Hojczyk

They = Bezos = Democrat = Trump Hater...

Time to blame Trump’s Tax Reform Bill.


25 posted on 10/03/2018 12:16:58 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: Hojczyk
The proverbial Turd in the punchbowl. Sounds exactly like something Obama would do. Well Bernie, see what Socialism vs. Meritocracy get's you?
26 posted on 10/03/2018 12:18:18 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is what I read in the papers.)
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To: Hojczyk

Sometimes the extra benefits and perks are what makes a lower wage job worthwhile.


27 posted on 10/03/2018 12:19:10 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Hojczyk
An Amazon spokesperson said “all hourly operations and customer service employees will see an increase in their total compensation as a result of this announcement. In addition, because it’s no longer incentive-based, the compensation will be more immediate and predictable.”

It's like a bar/restaurant owner raising the hourly wages of the waiters/bartenders but keeping all the tips.

I once owned a bar/restaurant and we offered our employees union hourly rates or a lower hourly rate but a bonus based on a percentage of quarterly sales {they kept tips under either schedule}.

When we first started, most chose union rates, but a few took the option of bonus.

After the first quarter, those that took the bonus almost doubled the hourly rate of the union rate, and soon they all changed.

It cost us a few more bucks, but, we had every bartender hustling their collective asses off to increase sales {this was in the 70s when there was no MADD and if our patrons got stoned, the cops went blind}, it would not work today.

28 posted on 10/03/2018 12:19:54 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Kill all mooselimb, terrorist savages, with extreme prejudice! Deus Vult!)
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I used to tend bar a couple of shifts a week and work a few outings a month at a local golf & country club. The wages were not something to write home about, but good service generated a nice tip income.

At the start of (I think) my fifth season there, we were called in to a meeting and told that everyone was getting a very large raise. We were also told no more tipping; a 17% service charge would be added to checks and house charges. I went back over the previous year’s tip book and calculated that I’d been making more than $21 an hour in combined income. They were “raising” me from $5.75 plus tips to $14, no tips. The management put little mounted notices on the tables and the bar saying “NO TIPS” and announcing the service charge. The members assumed that the percentage was going to the servers; a few added on a bit.

I added a note to the notices that told the truth; we did not get the percentage, but did get a higher wage. Many of our best bar customers started paying in cash and tipping as generously as before. Management did not like that and I was terminated.


29 posted on 10/03/2018 12:28:08 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Hojczyk

Just one more dollar, just one more week.
I hate em all.
Snowflakes, you all are leaking


30 posted on 10/03/2018 12:32:04 PM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: JimRed
Management did not like that and I was terminated.

I forgot to mention- that golf club is now in the process of becoming a field of McMansions!

31 posted on 10/03/2018 12:32:50 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Tired of Taxes
Sometimes the extra benefits and perks are what makes a lower wage job worthwhile.

That used to be the case with most government jobs. Now they make more than the general public but still have all the bennies!

32 posted on 10/03/2018 12:34:40 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Nifster
Sometimes people don’t realize what total compensation actually means

. Precisely. Do they think the employer has infinite funds? Companies exist to create a profit. That is the law. Demands of more of one thing, inherently mean you get less of something else. Faster, cheaper, better ~ pick any two

33 posted on 10/03/2018 12:41:06 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: kempster
Take it back from those idiots.

I'm willing to bet that most of those "idiots" didn't demand such a raise, but were all happy when told they were getting one. This whole thing was probably just a PR scam by Bezos to hide his thievery in the guise of virtue-signalling.
34 posted on 10/03/2018 12:46:33 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Hojczyk

So the people who actually produced more to gain the incentives available will now not produce as they did before no reason to!!! STUPID business move!!!!


35 posted on 10/03/2018 12:57:27 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Hojczyk
Typical liberal jerk - he gives publicly and gets BIG praise from liberal newspapers...then steals from the worker's pockets when no one is looking.

Liberal ‘elite’ thug.

36 posted on 10/03/2018 1:16:36 PM PDT by GOPJ ( <img src=”https://i.imgur.com/li3mn5N.jpg";></img>)
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To: Hojczyk

Welcome to socialism, where we pay the less productive more, by paying the more productive less.

Almost like money doesn’t grow on trees, and a company has to pay attention to the total expenses.


37 posted on 10/03/2018 1:29:03 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Hojczyk

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Serves them right. They don’t like the benefits, then they are welcome to find another job.


38 posted on 10/03/2018 1:34:11 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Bob434

The workers in Seattle had a rude awakening. Stories like:

“They raised my minimum wage to $15 in the little cafe where I worked. But then they wouldn’t pay for my parking, so now I either have to pay for that or take the bus which takes money and time. We also could take a sandwich for free and a drink for lunch break - but that was taken away too. They had to raise the prices, so now not as many people come in, and the tips are a lot lower.”


39 posted on 10/03/2018 1:41:20 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: Hojczyk

LOL! I worked for a company that did this in reverse. They implemented a bone-us program instead of base raises. The first year we would make a good amount more. Everyone was excited... except those of us that knew how to do basic math. Two years in, it was big pay cut. Huge.


40 posted on 10/03/2018 1:55:53 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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