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Trump ties decision on ethanol to keeping campaign promise
Washington Examiner ^ | 10/9/2018 | John Siciliano

Posted on 10/10/2018 4:07:38 AM PDT by Elderberry

President Trump chalked up his announcement on boosting ethanol for farmers in Iowa to his record of "promises made, promises kept," while speaking in Iowa Tuesday night.

"I made that promise to you during the campaign," Trump said. "I made that promise to you during the primaries. Promises made, promises kept."

"We're going with E15 year-round," Trump said early in his speech, admitting that the full announcement would come later in his remarks.

The plan would relax Environmental Protection Agency rules that restrict the sale of 15-percent ethanol fuel blends to eight months of the year. The EPA waiver for the E15 fuel would allow it to be sold year-round, which corn farmers and ethanol producers have been pushing the administration to do for months.

Later in the speech, Trump warned that ethanol production and E15 will be in jeopardy if Democrats take back Congress in November.

"The Dems will end ethanol, you know that," Trump said. "They're not going to approve ethanol. They will find a way to take it away. ... You better get out there and vote."

The second part of Trump's E15 plan seeks to reform the market that refiners use to buy ethanol credits in order to comply with EPA's Renewable Fuel Standard. The Renewable Identification Number credits, or RINs, have been a hot topic of debate among the oil industry.

The Trump plan is an attempt to settle a feud between the ethanol industry and refiners over the direction of the nation's renewable fuel program until Congress can agree on substantive reforms.

The refiners don't want to be subject to the high costs associated with the price of buying RINs. One company in Philadelphia said the high cost of RINs forced it to declare bankruptcy last year.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
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1 posted on 10/10/2018 4:07:38 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

Ethanol is bad policy, bad economics, bad for engines, but great for the crony Ag lobby.


2 posted on 10/10/2018 4:13:04 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yeah WTF?!?!?

You are not obligated to keep a BAD campaign promise!

Trump has been nothing less than a STELLAR president.

Here, however, he is wrong.


3 posted on 10/10/2018 4:15:08 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: dp0622

Agree!There is no positive reason to add ethonol to gasoline.


4 posted on 10/10/2018 4:20:11 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Elderberry

Ethanol is welfare for corn farmers. It’s bad for the environment, bad for gas mileage and bad for engines. Thankfully, I live in a state where I can still buy ethanol-free gas.


5 posted on 10/10/2018 4:21:21 AM PDT by 50mm
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To: Elderberry

Democrats want to ban ethanol? I’m in the wrong party.


6 posted on 10/10/2018 4:22:36 AM PDT by Ikeon (I cry because I'm sad, people are stupid, that makes me sad- sheldon cooper)
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To: Elderberry

Love our Prez, but Hate this decision !


7 posted on 10/10/2018 4:25:34 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ethanol is bad policy, bad economics, bad for engines, but great for the crony Ag lobby.

Agree on all. But to keep the midwestern corn belt on board politically? I’ll rebuild my engines if I have to.

8 posted on 10/10/2018 4:27:05 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: dp0622
"Here, however, he is wrong."

It surfaced after an STC ( Supplemental Type Certificate ) was obtained to burn auto gas in General Aviation airplanes some time ago. Ethanol would eat at O-rings and it caused some crashes. 2 planes I know (homebuilts) constructed w/ fiberglass tanks made emergency landings because it ate at the epoxy and it went south from there. So enter replace rubber with Viton.

Now these problems aren't just for aircraft, Boats, off road vehicles, Muscle Cars, anything with an old school engine or fuel system. I helped a friend get an old chainsaw going since this new fuel wouldn't do it. Av-gas mixed with motor mechanic, after about 4 pulls did the trick. How many freepers here in States where they can't get an unblended fuel ( think the Northeast ) have posted their or problems their friends have had with this stuff, especially the Outboard Motor folks, their headaches are legendary.

Love POTUS and I am not tired of winning and I get why he did this, but I do not like this one bit. Exchange the corn for De-esculation as a incentive for the Norks. That is a win win. Let them feed their livestock with it or grow that segment of their food supply.

9 posted on 10/10/2018 4:27:38 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song o and my guess .anyf Angry Men!")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

At least I still have a practical reason to discuss the inefficiency caused by subsidies in my Economics classes...
:(


10 posted on 10/10/2018 4:29:13 AM PDT by 4Liberty ("The Democrats are the Party of Crime!" - Donald J. Trump)
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To: taildragger

Cut to the chase.

i have a one year old Dodge Challenger.

Staten Island here. But still part of NYC :(

Is my car in danger from this crap?

Great post by the way.


11 posted on 10/10/2018 4:30:59 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: dp0622

This time he is.

Corn in the tank is a criminally stupid.


12 posted on 10/10/2018 4:32:11 AM PDT by wally_bert (I will competently make sure the thing is done incompetently.)
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To: wally_bert

I’ll look it up myself so as not to sound as lazy as I really am.

But when and HOW the HECK did corn ever END UP in our tanks?!?!


13 posted on 10/10/2018 4:34:19 AM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: taildragger
I can get ethanol free gas, but I have to drive quite a ways to get it.

For my small engines I've even resorted to stripping out the ethanol from the gas with water. That lowers the octane a couple of points though, so I start out with a higher grade.

14 posted on 10/10/2018 4:34:24 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

This is the only issue on which I have disagreed with Trump.


15 posted on 10/10/2018 4:34:37 AM PDT by FrankR (You gotta stand for something, or you'll fall for anything!)
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To: Vaquero

The problem with buying people is that you can’t guarantee they’ll stay bought.

Sigh.


16 posted on 10/10/2018 4:34:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Boy, do I disagree with Trump on this. Ethanol is just bad.

Bad.

Bad.


17 posted on 10/10/2018 4:36:38 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: dp0622
DP, I am no auto engineer, but I did stay @ a Holiday Inn Express ;-). The auto engineers design for the E-fuels, and the engine digital controls correct for it. Some have said it senses the cooler burn and you actually get more power in turbo applications. However, Mileage sucks. I got lucky one day it is the only thing I can think of. I watched a car I drive go from 17mpg to 21 in the summer and all I can think is I got either a batch of winter blend accidentally or it was ethanol free. To this day I haven't been able to replicate that experience. It had to be the fuel, because the car ran better as well, more pep.
18 posted on 10/10/2018 4:37:51 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song o and my guess .anyf Angry Men!")
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To: mewzilla

It’s like bringing jobs back to the rust belt.


19 posted on 10/10/2018 4:38:46 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Elderberry

Elderberry, do you strip it with water, or do you have some other method that I maybe unaware of, aka centrifugal force etc.


20 posted on 10/10/2018 4:39:33 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Song o and my guess .anyf Angry Men!")
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