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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Yeah, I trust the Chinese government and the big tech companies. I am sure neither would lie to us.

Look, ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton, use your head. There are FAR EASIER, CHEAPER, and SMARTER WAYS to accomplish this than sticking a big red FLAG extra IC on a motherboard that would be spotted by the Quality Control checks of the guys who DESIGNED THE MOTHERBOARD in San Jose, CA! That is not how these things are done! Bloomberg's article is BOGUS. Multiple computer security EXPERTS have come out and stated that the NON-EXPERT BLOOMBERT reporters with their ANONYMOUS sources are not telling the truth and are publishing FAKE NEWS . . . including some who were cited in Bloomberg's article who are saying they were misquoted and taken out of context!

Had Bloomberg's reporters written that the Chinese were altering the FIRMWARE software codes to force the PROCESSORS or the firmware of the IO ports to do something nefarious, then it would be far more believable and much easier for them to do and HIDE than sticking an extra chip on a multi-layer motherboard. . . which requires them to RE-ENGINEER THE BOARD from the ground up to accommodate the traces, solder pads, power lines, and a whole host of things that MUST be considered for just ONE MORE IC to be added. It's not just soldering it on there and expecting it to work properly with all the other components. Hardware design ain't that easy. Motherboards aren't kludged like they once were, with parts simply hand soldered across the legs of ICs in sockets. Mother boards may have as many as six and eight layers of circuit traces.

Another approach that would be much harder to find is to build your component into the IC chips that already exist, adding that new, surreptitious functionality you want to phone home, after spying and collecting the data, onto a chip that ALREADY EXISTS on the board. The only way to find that is to pull the chip, sand it down to reveal the various multiple levels of circuitry under a scanning electron microscope and ANALYZE exactly what circuitry there is on there, and what is ALSO programmed in it and what it will do. With circuits that can have BILLIONS of transistors on a chip, one can hide a LOT in a chip. . . and no one would be the wiser. . .

Yet these "oh so smart Chinese Spy engineers," Bloomberg would have us believe "just soldered on a Grain of Rice Sized IC chip onto a mother board—a board designed by an expert American Company in San Jose, California—and then expect that NO ONE WOULD NOTICE the major changes that would have to made to their custom designed motherboard to ADD a spurious chip during Quality Control Inspection?" This, keep in mind, is a product that would undergo computer assisted QUALITY CONTROL EXAMINATION—not just someone picking it up and eyeballing it at— at every step of product build. That means the board would be compared with a reference board BY A COMPUTER to assure it MATCHES IN EVERY DETAIL, and that EVERY CIRCUIT also matches and passes muster.

OOPS. It won't match if it's been altered. Oh, there a grain of rice size chip added??? Oh, that's ok. . . let it go. Must have been authorized by someone. DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT HAPPENED? I don't.

9 posted on 10/10/2018 9:18:22 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

Strikes me that these people that imagine sticking a chip on to a MB is easy are like the people who imagine food is made grocery stores ... or that can goods are grown that way.


14 posted on 10/11/2018 3:07:56 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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