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Trump’s tariffs on China are doing the exact opposite of what they’re supposed to
Qz.com ^ | 1 minute ago | By Gwynn Guilford

Posted on 10/12/2018 11:11:42 PM PDT by cba123

Donald Trump’s tariffs on China are going great, the US president assured the world yesterday. ”Their economy has gone down very substantially,” Trump said on Fox & Friends.

The numbers tell a different story. In September, Americans bought $34 billion more worth of Chinese goods than they sold, according to data from China published this morning. That’s the biggest monthly trade surplus the Middle Kingdom has ever run with the US.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; china; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; gwynnguilford; mediawingofthednc; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; nevertrumpertrolls; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine
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Ok.

Let me start this by saying I have supported Donald Trump from the start.

I have supported him. I voted for him. I am very happy with how he is doing. He is doing a terrific job as US President.

I am not sure the author shares my views. Frankly, it seems he is posting this to be critical of Donald Trump.

Posting this myself, I am not posting this to criticize Trump.

But then again, I would like to point out, that China is currently, running the largest trade surplus, which any country, has ever inflicted on any other country.

Ever.

And it will set yet another record this year.

Again.

I am all for correcting the trade situation between our two countries. It has been far, far too long, that we have been buying FAR TOO MUCH from China.

They do not support America.

We should back the heck off, from building them up.

It is time to build up America, once again.

In my view...

1 posted on 10/12/2018 11:11:42 PM PDT by cba123
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To: cba123

Oh excuse me, this article is older than one minute, now. Here is the link:

https://www.google.com.vn/amp/s/qz.com/1422225/the-us-china-trade-war-has-made-chinas-trade-surplus-bigger-than-ever/amp/


2 posted on 10/12/2018 11:15:13 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

Someone the other day mentioned that people are buying more to beat the implementation of tariffs. Sounds like it could be a reasoned explanation for the larger trade imbalance figures.

The tariffs will have the desired effect.

Can’t expect the figures to be accurate before the tariffs go into effect.

Anyone criticizing right now is scared the tariffs will work.


3 posted on 10/12/2018 11:19:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: cba123

I wonder what kind of trade policy is going to help Christians in both China and the USA the most. And the answer might not be obvious. But it matters to what is reflected in everlasting heaven. Gospel themed goods may get people who produce it thinking about the gospel.


4 posted on 10/12/2018 11:29:30 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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Partisan Media Shill update, bfl.

Public anger in China spreading as property prices drop [tr]
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3696027/posts

China spy busted: Who, again, started the China trade war?
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3695617/posts

News of the Day, incl Clash Inside China [aw!m vanity]
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3695266/posts


5 posted on 10/12/2018 11:41:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Quartz?


6 posted on 10/12/2018 11:50:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: cba123

The numbers tell a different story. In September, Americans bought $34 billion more worth of Chinese goods than they sold, according to data from China published this morning. That’s the biggest monthly trade surplus the Middle Kingdom has ever run with the US.

...

Please send your complaints to the Federal Reserve, which in its zeal to cause a recession, is raising interest rates too high which is strengthening the dollar against the weaker Chinese currency.

At least with tariffs, the government will be taking in revenue that won’t be coming out of your paycheck.


7 posted on 10/13/2018 12:13:25 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, I don’t recognize the source, but the article, seems to be accurate.

Here is another article, with a very similar story:

https://www.google.com.vn/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/china-us-surplus-hits-record-adding-fuel-trade-044139235.html


8 posted on 10/13/2018 12:21:18 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

Quartz is not allowed here.


9 posted on 10/13/2018 12:23:41 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: cba123

I have and always will support an
“American Made” market. It took me
3 weeks to find American Made tires
for my lawnmower. Chinese made stuff
is crap. Keep the faith, it won’t be
long before America is great again.


10 posted on 10/13/2018 12:37:53 AM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Sidebar Moderator

Didn’t know that. Thanks.

Moderator, if true

Why did this post? And can you please delete this post?

Thanks...


11 posted on 10/13/2018 12:48:38 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123

You can’t expect a newly imposed - and only partially imposed - tariff to work right away. If Trump had slammed massive tariffs on Chinese made goods right away it would have caused chaos, companies would not have had time to set up alternative sources of supply, etc. He’s been proceeding slowly for a reason. He warned companies in the first year what was coming. He’s been gradually imposing more and more tariffs on China in steps. Companies are both looking for other suppliers (some in the US) as well as stocking up as much as they can in advance of the full implementation of higher tariffs on China. Give it time.


12 posted on 10/13/2018 1:56:14 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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China Censors Bad Economic News Amid Signs of Slower Growth
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/28/business/china-censor-economic-news.html

Chinese Economy Suffers Biggest Investment Slowdown on Record
https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-economy-suffers-biggest-investment-slowdown-on-record_2661974.html

China’s Cooling Economy Spells Trouble Ahead for Global Growth
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-16/china-s-cooling-economy-spells-trouble-ahead-for-global-growth

meanwhile, back at the Clinton Non News:

China’s economic slowdown not as bad as feared - CNN Money
https://money.cnn.com/2016/07/14/news/economy/china-gdp/index.html


13 posted on 10/13/2018 1:58:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: cba123

I think this was a bubble due to acceleration to beat the tariffs. It’s called an extinction burst.

The same thing happened to guns when Clinton blocked the import of some auto loading rifles.


14 posted on 10/13/2018 2:02:53 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

I think this (may) be similar, but this may not change US behavior nearly the same way.

There is no “stop” date.

We will see what happens, in the future...


15 posted on 10/13/2018 2:21:25 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: cba123
> "...Americans bought $34 billion more worth of Chinese goods than they sold, according to data from China published this morning"

Read the above and focus:

... according to data from China ...

I bought last week a black metal rotating desk caddy online and I received it two days ago.

It was in a box that showed it was imported by an American company from Canada who in turn imported it from China. It was originally manufactured in China.

Note that NAFTA was scrapped and Canada just recently in the last two weeks signed a new trade agreement with the USA and note that this new trade agreement allows the USA to cut off any goods from Canada that were manufactured outside of Canada.

The Chinese saw it coming.

What would they be expected to do?

What happened when Mexico found out the USA was serious about border enforcement?

Illegals rushed across the border. The news media reported the largest swarms of illegals crossing the border ever.

China is rushing the border with their goods through Canada ahead of NAFTA annihilation.

The President's plan is working.

New orders of goods from China to Canadian importers for USA buyers have crashed.

China is in hurt city.

Welcome to the Trump Era China.

And about that Chinese tendency to always want to save face?

Forgeddaboutit.

You can eat crow you lying, thieving, polluting, bastards.

16 posted on 10/13/2018 2:49:38 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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To: cba123

Feinstein, Pence Speech on China, Missing Interpol President Meng Hongwei of China
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeYbAuyIYRQ


17 posted on 10/13/2018 3:46:00 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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To: cba123

It will all work out - looking at short term blips at the onset of a long-term fix will always give “wrong track” results when it involves adversaries...Trump’s in it to win and going squishy because it all doesn’t just snap into place instantly and with zero short term consequences is not a winning strategy - it’s a strategy to continue on with zero positive effects or progress.


18 posted on 10/13/2018 4:17:38 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: cba123
Here’s my take, and mind you I’m no expert on economics:

We read about record employment, best conditions for Blacks, Hispanics in decades - there is no doubt the economy is heating up. Job market has been tightening and incomes are rising. People are spending more. By the nature of our current trade setup, if Americans are spending/buying more, then it makes sense that there would be more imported Chinese goods being bought.

I think we need to take the narrative that “Trump’s tariffs” are having the opposite effect intended with a yuge grain of salt. At least at this point in time - they haven’t even fully kicked in yet.

C_E
19 posted on 10/13/2018 5:23:03 AM PDT by clueless_expert
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To: cba123
The increase is due to domestic companies rushing to get their order filled before the tariffs fall into place. That's all.

Give it another fiscal quarter and stop being such worry wart.

20 posted on 10/13/2018 5:27:45 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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