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What Percent Makes You Part Of A Group? [Vanity]
vanity | October 15, 2018 | Reno89519

Posted on 10/15/2018 9:47:00 AM PDT by Reno89519

Okay, so Senator Warren had her friend take and analyize her DNA. He came up with the conclusion that she MAY BE 1/1024 Cherokee based on a marker that some Cherokee sometimes have. And the margin of error is 1/256. She may be 0.00097561 Cherokee. Does that count? The margin of error says that all of us may be 0.00390625 Cherokee. Shall we claim it as well?


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What is the threshold? The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians say 1/16 or 0.625 to be recognized as Cherokee. And then they won't count that if you are also African-American. Oops. Not very inclusive are they?

And what about our minority classifications? Are you Hispanic or Latino? Black? Etc. Most classifications, such as for company ownership for preference and set-asides, claiming benefits and freebies, etc., are simply Yes and No. There are no established percentages. In California there is controversy over House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s in-laws claiming Native American identity because of a commercial DNA test. Ah, third-party test, not one by a friend. Anyway, please dispute the legitimacy of the claim. Yet, the law says you are or are not.

So, based on current laws and customs, local, state, and federal programs are simply Yes or No. Makes a bit of a mockery of these set-asides as are all mongrels to some extent--the American Melting Pot. My family traces to 1700s German, Irish, and Scottish settlers, later to Polish and Lithuanian. Bet if I got a DNA test, we'd find a lot more. My wife's family is from Spain and Spain via Venezuela. My boys qualify as Hispanic or Latino. Better benefits if we'd claim they were illegal but that's a different topic.

Okay, I've worked with White Cubans who qualified because they were from Cuba. Not much different than our son's claiming Hispanic or Latino because of my wife's Spanish roots.

My conclusion is that it is all a scam, long overdue to be ended. If we are color blind, then who cares? Race origin is haphazard measure, made meaningless with DNA tests, which are often flawed anyway by reading only a half dozen markers out of thousands (and repeated claims that they are inaccurate, false data is thrown in to screw with people, etc.). Should we end it or say that someone needs, like the Cherokee, a certain percentage? I say end it.

More important, in my opinion, is are you a citizen or not, are you economically disadvantaged (giving small business a helping hand when competing again big business.

Until there is some clarity, I suspect more and more people can claim whatever they want with whatever flimsy but equally acceptable evidence they want to you.

What do you think? Do away with it? Set thresholds? Set test requirements or sources for claim?

1 posted on 10/15/2018 9:47:00 AM PDT by Reno89519
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To: Reno89519

Sure, she “may be” 0.00097561 Cherokee based on DNA from Colombia, Peru and Mexico, lol. And zero DNA from actual Cherokee people.


2 posted on 10/15/2018 9:50:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Reno89519

Actual Europeans, living in Europe, descended from Europeans who never went to America have a certain percentage of “Native American” DNA. What this actually represents is DNA from Siberian sources. These peoples who were the source of these Siberian DNA segments contained in the DNA of modern Europeans were also the source of the same DNA segments present in Amerindians.

Elizabeth Warren is full of shit....and it’s not Cherokee shit.


3 posted on 10/15/2018 9:53:33 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: Olog-hai

But ABC says this is a *STRONG* indication that she is Native American.


4 posted on 10/15/2018 9:53:45 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: Reno89519

As I understand it, she has a much better chance of being related to chicken s—t.


5 posted on 10/15/2018 9:53:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: Olog-hai

Here’s the question she needs to answer:

How many Americans qualify for government perks and assistance if she does with this amount of Indian blood?


6 posted on 10/15/2018 9:54:10 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Stop The Madness. Do Not Respond To Vanity Posts.)
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To: Reno89519
I'm 3% Neanderthal .. where's my check ? !
7 posted on 10/15/2018 9:54:31 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Reno89519

I had an Indonesian accidentally breathe on me one time- does that make me Indonesian? Can i claim special rights now as a ‘native Indonesian/American citizen’


8 posted on 10/15/2018 9:54:56 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Reno89519
I am 60% Drosophila melanogaster


9 posted on 10/15/2018 9:55:29 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Man claims to be a minority business owner after DNA test shows he’s 4% African
10 posted on 10/15/2018 9:56:26 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Reno89519

She’s manipulative and a liar

If anything, this PROVES she’s a FRAUD

I don’t consider myself “European Jewish” since it came back INITIALLY @ 1%. In fact, my wife and I had a good laff over that

But recently, the Ethnic Profile was UPDATED due to new technology and data. Guess What? The 1% DISAPPEARED. So did the 3% “North African” (Mediterranean)

That FAUX had to go out and “hire” a “friend” and he did an “analysis” is just a piece to this entire fraud. Declaring yourself “Native American” is as bad as Christine Fraud accusing a good man like JUSTICE Kananaugh a “groper” “abuser” whatever.

And of course, the lapdogs in the media run with it.

What a disaster the Dims and media lapdogs are.


11 posted on 10/15/2018 9:57:32 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Mods/Indies/Dems/Non-voters" Are the CRAZY DIMS REALLY who you'd want BACK in POWER?)
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Identity politics is bound to contain racist assumptions of various kinds. If you are white and set out to help people of various identities, you have made an assumption that they need help. That is subtly racist in itself. But if you are of the named identity group and claim a special status as a result, that is racist in that it implies a certain superior status. A “color blind” citizenship would dismiss these identities as irrelevant. In the far distant future there may come a time when the general attitude towards a claim of Cherokee ancestry is met with a chorus of yawns. I suspect that day has already arrived on the right side of the political spectrum. People are tired of fighting all the old battles that cannot have winners, just groups of losers on both sides. I take it a step further, I don’t really care much about my ancestry, I care more about where I’m going.


12 posted on 10/15/2018 9:57:58 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (In the alternate universe, John McCain was a one-term president and Sarah Palin a two-term president)
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My kids are 50% Samoan and they don’t have the audacity to call themselves Samoan.


13 posted on 10/15/2018 9:59:01 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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How many Americans qualify for government perks and assistance if she does with this amount of Indian blood?

Or black or whatever. Yes, I bet 99% of us will be able to claim something. Maybe we should all claim being Indian? Black? Hispanic?

14 posted on 10/15/2018 9:59:22 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: House Atreides

That makes her 0.1%. That is like a 1/10 of a penny.


15 posted on 10/15/2018 9:59:46 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Olog-hai

So you’re saying she’s actually an illegal alien?

Deport!


16 posted on 10/15/2018 10:00:01 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The new Oldsmobiles are in early this year)
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To: Reno89519

She must be 1/32 injun to claim she is a legal injun.


17 posted on 10/15/2018 10:00:25 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic is one stop shopping...It's the super Walmart for news.)
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If that DNA test proves she is Cherokee, then most of the black community in America qualify as Caucasian. 🤔
18 posted on 10/15/2018 10:00:26 AM PDT by jmclemore (Go Trump)
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To: Reno89519

I would think none.

Suppose a white lady and her infant get kidnapped by Comanche.

Said child is raised Comanche. He’s a Comanche. And can even become chief. (This is not a theoretical discussion, BTW.)

I know many an adopted Asian kid who became Haredi Jewish people in Israel.

The concept of race is pretty vague a fluid.

She’s a pasty white lady who faked a story for affirms action reasons.

Now she’s busted on her own liberalism.


19 posted on 10/15/2018 10:00:46 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Reno89519

Nobody’s reporting the findings that she’s 50% donkey/horse. I guess that too obvious and not worth reporting. /sarc


20 posted on 10/15/2018 10:01:00 AM PDT by LostPassword
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