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Poll: Maryland voters narrowly oppose Hogan’s big plan for express toll lanes
The Washington Post ^ | October 12, 2018 | Robert McCartney and Emily Guskin

Posted on 10/17/2018 7:42:33 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: the OlLine Rebel

I live close to White Marsh and use the Beltway Inner Loop to drive home from Towson where I work five days per week. My property backs to I-95 and we suffered through the construction of the additional lanes. While the 95 expansion and on and off ramps are engineering marvels. all this expansion did was to increase the amount of traffic that hits the Beltway leading to more congestion. Like increasing a water pipe dimension from two inches to twelve inches the flows into the same two inch drain. I work in the eminent domain field of real estate and the cost to acquire the property necessary to expand these freeways would be staggering. However, from a strategic defense standpoint, the BW Parkway probably needs it the most.


21 posted on 10/17/2018 9:04:08 AM PDT by VietVet876
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To: sphinx

“The solution is to live closer to your job.”

That’s great. Work in Hyattsville, live in Hyattsville.

Until, for whatever reason, the job in Hyattsville goes away. And your only choice is to take a job in McLean.


22 posted on 10/17/2018 9:29:27 AM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: rjsimmon

Widening roads does NOT relieve congestion. Longer off ramps and sympathetic traffic signals do.


I guess you have never driven on the New Jersey Turnpike or Garden State Parkway. The Turnpike is 12 lanes, 6 on each side, 3 car 3 truck/car so it is really 4 sets of 3 lanes. It used to merge down to a 6 lane highway in Cranbury, and the highway would jam up for miles, sometime 10-15 miles if it is peek summer/commuter when commuters and shore traffic double the amount of south bound traffic going to the shore. But that part of highway was expanded to continue the 12 lanes all the way down to exit 3. Now the congestion doesn’t happen on the Turnpike. Unless of course they close the Truck lanes for whatever reasons.

As for the Garden State, it is 10 lanes, 5 on each side from the Turnpike to I-78, then it sheds a lane on each side going to 280, then sheds another lane, and yes it gets congested as more lanes are shed. (going north bound) Lanes are added going southbound.

Adding lanes does help with congestion, but the roads connecting to these highways need to handle the capacity as well.

Mass transit is a dream of lefties, who want everyone else to take the loser cruiser to work while they all take their own cars. Problem is nobody wants to take the loser cruiser cause it takes forever. Trains can work, then you have rail congestion plus train stations are located in some of the worse places imaginable. Seacucus station is located in the middle of a swamp surrounded by refiners, why? It makes no sense to have a station far away from jobs and residential areas. But it exists, and it was recently built as well.


23 posted on 10/17/2018 9:33:08 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That would have been a nightmare.


24 posted on 10/17/2018 9:35:21 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Trump.Deplorable

The Turnpike is a long stretch of toll road with very few on/off ramps.


25 posted on 10/17/2018 9:35:49 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Nah. I’m from the Eastern Shore. Leave the Bay alone. Except clean it up.


26 posted on 10/17/2018 9:36:13 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: sitetest

Wish. I live on the Eastern Shore and commute to DC every day.


27 posted on 10/17/2018 9:36:52 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Move some agencies out of DC to other areas of the country.

Detroit needs jobs!


28 posted on 10/17/2018 9:43:33 AM PDT by lizma2
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To: rjsimmon

Yes that is correct, however the garden state is not


29 posted on 10/17/2018 9:54:13 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Trump.Deplorable

But it is a toll road.


30 posted on 10/17/2018 9:58:53 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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Survey: Americans willing to pay more fees, taxes to relieve congestion (10/17)
31 posted on 10/17/2018 10:35:10 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

Actually, the extension of the dual carriageways runs down to Exit 6, where the rerouted I-95 splits from the New Jersey turnpike to connect with the Pennsylvania Turnpike just across the Delaware River.


32 posted on 10/17/2018 10:38:35 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You are right, they combined it there and made it three lanes onwards to the bridge, instead of two.

I hardly go past exit 6, its been a while


33 posted on 10/17/2018 11:34:58 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: sitetest

They already have added 4 lanes on the Virginia part of the beltway, these would tie to those. I’ve cut 10-15 minutes of my drive to see my parents sometimes because of these lanes.


34 posted on 10/17/2018 11:35:37 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Are you talking about the toll lanes?


35 posted on 10/17/2018 11:52:19 AM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
So traffic congestion is terrible around our nation's capital?

You don't imagine that's one of the features of an ever-growing federal gummint, do you?

Suck it up, bureaucrats and lobbyists. You are the ones responsible for the horrendous traffic jams on the beltway and elsewhere.

It's certainly not the tourists.

You can pay the price, so do it.

(There is a solution, of course: move the nation's capital to a less crowded place, say, Emporia, Kansas. Or Columbia, Missouri. That'd fix it.)

36 posted on 10/17/2018 12:11:03 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: sitetest

Yes. With my two kids, we can use the lanes as HOV. Or I can spend money and use them, sometimes I do that even when there is not much traffic just to get to drive over 65 MPH without worrying about a ticket.


37 posted on 10/17/2018 12:30:16 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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