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Rosenstein says Mueller probe is 'appropriate and independent'
The Hill ^ | 10/17/18 | EMILY BIRNBAUM

Posted on 10/17/2018 3:29:35 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: Electric Graffiti

Your argument is a complete non sequitur. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Rod Rosenstein problem. That my friend is obtuse. Get back on topic.

We’re not talking about Trunmp’s accomplishments, which by any measure are extraordinary and unprecedented. The issue here is one of Trump’s inability to control the DOJ in general, and Rod Rosenstein in particular as well as his defied order to immediately release the FISA docs.

Its a well known problem for him. Most of his supporters will admit that.


21 posted on 10/17/2018 4:17:09 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: yesthatjallen

He needs to be in jail along with his criminal cohorts


22 posted on 10/17/2018 4:17:13 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Electric Graffiti

“he cases we brought were warranted by the evidence and that it was an appropriate”

Yeah indicting 26 Russians they knew damn well would never be in court just to make thing look legit right.
I want this evil little prick to burn.


23 posted on 10/17/2018 4:17:58 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: proust

Trump seems to like Rosenweasel. In fact, he said he has a “very good relationship” with Rod and that “I’ve gotten to know him and I get along very well with him”. This about a guy who plotted a coup against him and refuses to cooperate with the United States Congress.

Trump even let Rod persuade him not to release the FISA docs which have been dumped onto Horowitz, who will never release them before the election.


24 posted on 10/17/2018 4:21:39 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

I get your points and they are reasonable explanations.

I think there was an unfortunate miscalculation. Trump initially wanted to release the FISA docs but was clearly talked out of it by Rosenstein for his own reasons, and by our “allies” based on their concerns about exposure of their illegal activities and meddling in our elections. Trump subsequently backed off on his order, thereby having his credibility and authority placed at risk. So I don’t think he was thinking then of any grand plan, at least not when he ordered the “immediate declassification”.

Sadly, this thing has become problematic. Many of Trump’s most ardent supporters are pleading with him to release the FISA docs. You may be right in your theory, but with Horowitz now involved there’s no telling what will happen. Its gotten to be a real mess.


25 posted on 10/17/2018 4:35:23 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: IVAXMAN

That’s how it reads to me too. Rosenstein’s got nothing. The Mueller report is going to be a big fizzle. Trump is now totally confident of this, which changes the logic. He can now safely let the witch hunt play out undisturbed to its pathetic balloon whistle conclusion. No reason to fire anyone just this minute. In fact he can even put on a public display of chumminess with Rosenstein, which is probably not a bad look heading into the midterms.


26 posted on 10/17/2018 4:51:12 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: IVAXMAN

“I believe this, like in poker, is a tell...

This tells me he has nothing beyond what they have already prosecuted. Now he is moving to the phase of justifying what they have done..”

Excellent read.


27 posted on 10/17/2018 4:51:38 PM PDT by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: yesthatjallen

Another Deep State apologist heard from.


28 posted on 10/17/2018 4:54:31 PM PDT by circlecity
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To: yesthatjallen

I sit here typing knowing that Rosenstein will get his comeuppance at the time of POTUS’ choosing.


29 posted on 10/17/2018 5:01:44 PM PDT by onyx (JOIN 300 CLUB BY DONATING $34 MONTHLY! TRUMP'S WAY IS THE WINNING WAY!)
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To: Starboard

After months of thinking on this, I think I understand what is going on.
I suspect starting Jan 1 things are going to break loose.
I’m not sure what is going happen to Rosenstein but IMHO, he needs to be fired assuming another Swamp Creature is not waiting in the wings.


30 posted on 10/17/2018 5:10:04 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: yesthatjallen
appropriate and independent

And, there seems to be the problem. Mueller is not an independent prosecutor. He is a special counsel subject to review by the AG. He is supposed to be tasked to investigate a crime (he wasn't). He was tasked with continuing an investigation with no particular crime to investigate and no restraint from RR.

31 posted on 10/17/2018 5:13:37 PM PDT by NutsOnYew
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To: conservative98

I’m still trying to reconcile the supposed evolution of Sessions from the “silent executioner” prosecuter in Alabama, through being the first member of Congress to support Trump, to being an asleep swamp creature.

I’m still holding out hope that he is still the silent executioner, and none of us - especially in this volatile atmosphere of never-ending investigations and Trump attacks - really knows what is going on.

I’m still in the Sessions camp - for now.


32 posted on 10/17/2018 5:27:33 PM PDT by EarlyBird (There's a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: Zathras

After months of thinking on this, I think I understand what is going on. I suspect starting Jan 1 things are going to break loose.

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I have thought about this a lot as well and have my own theory as to what’s going on. I think Sessions will be gone soon after the election, regardless of the outcome. He will suddenly “retire”. Let’s hope Trump is able to get a bulldog to replace him.

Rosenstein on the other hand is a bigger and more complicated problem for Trump. He could release the FISA docs and have immediate justification for getting rid of Rosenstein. But notice Trump’s reluctance to do that. As I’ve said before, in the face of overwhelming evidence to justify firing him, Rosenstein is — amazingly — still in his job. The only logical explanation is that he must be holding some “good” cards.


33 posted on 10/17/2018 5:39:01 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: EarlyBird

The only thing that makes sense to me is that Sessions is a Deep State plant. Nobody could possibly be as passive and detached from his job as Sessions is unless it was by design. He has let the agency he heads to be totally disgraced. What manager would permit that to happen on his watch? Moreover, Sessions has made no effort whatsoever to protect Trump in any way. In fact, he has been content to let Rod Rosenstein, the defacto AG, run the department into the ground.

The only logical explanation of Sessions’ refusal to do his job and at the same time betray his boss is that he has been a plant from day one. If you accept that premise then its easy to understand his duplicity.

There is no secret plan between Trump and Sessions. Only betrayal.


34 posted on 10/17/2018 5:48:29 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: yesthatjallen

If the same kind of witch hunt is done on the next dem President (may it be never) then it can be considered appropriate.


35 posted on 10/17/2018 6:11:03 PM PDT by Boomer (Better Dead Than Dem)
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To: Starboard

I gave you the facts on the ground. This is a mexican standoff between the whole of our corrupt stasi state and President Trump.

When he makes a move against the corrupt state, he will be putting his Presidency and the fate of the nation ‘in the pot’(at risk) on that single move. ALL IN. He knows that, I know that. Why you don’t know that is anyone’s guess. Like I said, deliberately obtuse, an agenda or a sleeper cruzhole.


36 posted on 10/17/2018 6:30:22 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Jeff Sessions IS the insurance policy)
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To: Starboard
If you accept that premise then its easy to understand his duplicity.

Sorry, I don’t accept that premise. Not yet, anyway.

37 posted on 10/17/2018 6:45:46 PM PDT by EarlyBird (There's a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Like I said, deliberately obtuse, an agenda or a sleeper cruzhole.

**************

Back to name calling again? The pathetic refuge of someone who can’t deal with honest debate.


38 posted on 10/18/2018 7:14:22 AM PDT by Starboard
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