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Jamal Khashoggi: The Media Fights for Muslim Brotherhood Pal-The terrorist truth behind the lies[TR]
FrontPage Mag ^ | October 15, 2018 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/18/2018 3:05:20 PM PDT by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

The Deep State is just full of insurance policies.


41 posted on 10/18/2018 5:37:02 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: Tzaphon
Excellent post,point being if thomas wictor is correct and jamal did leave 20 minutes after he arrived best guesses are that he was taken out by the erdogan regime for one reason or another.

It doesn't take too much for Erdogan to off someone.It's what he does and has done ever since he got in power. He has jailed or killed thousands in the military, journalists, judges, you name it anyone that got in his way or looked like he would get in his way was taken out and it's not over yet.

So who took out Jamal? now the claim is Israel which can not be counted out since the modern day MOssad is as corrupt as the CIa accd. to George Webb.

42 posted on 10/18/2018 5:37:16 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga USA supports Trump.)
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To: rx
Great stuff Thomas wictor claims that the photo of Jamal and his supposed fiance was photo-shopped. No one had hears of her.

one of the biggest crybabies in the US is Judith Miller of the NYT who supposedly is a big buddy of Jamal.How could that be,is she a cia mockingbird and has been for decades?inquiring minds.

Since we now Jamal is Saudi intel and he was posing as a journalist in the US is it likely he attracted the attention of the CIA? Most likely it is.Therefore there has to be a reason he is allowed to do what he does here.Could it be guns for drugs with uncle Adnon?Once again inquiring minds..... Someone else who is seldom mentioned is Jamal's uncle Adnan Khshoggi, a major big league weapons smuggler who reportedly branched out into drugs and human smuggling as well.Guess who will take his place one day?If you said nephew Jamal pass go ....

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43 posted on 10/18/2018 5:56:15 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga USA supports Trump.)
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To: monkeyshine

The Trump team is playing this perfectly. They will allow Turkey to make the official announcement of what happened.

Pompeo told them they better play nicely.


44 posted on 10/18/2018 5:58:26 PM PDT by blackberry1
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To: monkeyshine
...but from what I have seen SA has been barbaric and I don’t like that we seem to be backing them without limit.

You are probably correct but look at who they are up against. The most barbaric criminal religious nutcases in the history of the world.How do you deal with clowns who put women in iron cages and then burn them to death since they refuse to be sex slaves?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/677170/Barbaric-ISIS-fighters-burn-19-women-alive-iron-cages-refusing-sex-slaves

How else do you deal with them except in terms that they understand. This is the beauty of what trump has achieved.The saudis can get away with stuff that we never could in a million years and its probably necessary if you want to stem the tide of unbridled terrorism in a region that knows no peace.

45 posted on 10/18/2018 6:03:37 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga USA supports Trump.)
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To: monkeyshine

No question thanks for the addition. Between the three of them they are setting the mullahs up for a fall that will never be forgotten. First they let the mullahs destroy their economy,than they go after the security staff and the rest won’t be long incoming. The mullahs will be history.


46 posted on 10/18/2018 6:07:07 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga USA supports Trump.)
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To: Trump_vs_Evil_Witch

Really good post and could well be what is going on.


47 posted on 10/18/2018 6:41:16 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga USA supports Trump.)
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To: rodguy911

Greetings!

Take the wormhole between the old-CIA and Saudi Intel.
Call them siblings.


48 posted on 10/18/2018 7:43:28 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: rodguy911

,Mike Pompeo graduated first in his class from the United States Military Academy at West Point,.....

Clearly, not a dumb s_it who is going to step in any dog s_it trap that the raghead Muslim Brotherhood devils put together to trip up the Trumpster....


49 posted on 10/18/2018 8:22:11 PM PDT by Trump_vs_Evil_Witch (Meuller, Rosenstein,....co-conspirators to Obstruct Justice over Uranium One)
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To: rodguy911

They will be history but walk away with millions each carried off in diplomatic pouches and settle in Switzerland and Austria thanks to the US taxpayer and Obama.


50 posted on 10/18/2018 10:04:58 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: rodguy911

They will be history but walk away with millions each carried off in diplomatic pouches and settle in Switzerland and Austria thanks to the US taxpayer and Obama.


51 posted on 10/18/2018 10:05:01 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: rodguy911

They will be history but walk away with millions each carried off in diplomatic pouches and settle in Switzerland and Austria thanks to the US taxpayer and Obama.


52 posted on 10/18/2018 10:05:02 PM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine

The media will protect their own.

I toss the BS flag on that! Did they care when (under Obozo’s watch) ISIS beheaded American reporter, James Foley? The American media will protect ONLY leftists.


53 posted on 10/19/2018 5:31:24 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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To: New Jersey Realist

They never said a peep about the UK’s attempt to murder Tommy Robinson.


54 posted on 10/19/2018 5:49:24 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: rodguy911
Jamal's long been associated with Saudi opposition group MIRA.
55 posted on 11/20/2018 11:43:29 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: LucyT
once you read this you ge a piece of the puzzle that was Jamal Kashoggi.The rest is relevant as well.a long clip from the link below: ............... After Afghanistan, Jamal Khashoggi went to work as a media adviser for former Saudi intel boss, Prince Turki bin Faisal, alleged to have links to Al Qaeda. Those allegations came from, among others, Zacarias Moussaoui, the alleged twentieth hijacker. When the other 19 hijackers perpetrated the attacks of September 11, Khashoggi wrote that the Saudis would not “give in” to American “demands” for “unconditional condemnation” and “total cooperation”. "Saudis tend to link the ugliness of what happened in New York and Washington with what has happened and continues to happen in Palestine. It is time that the United States comes to understand the effect of its foreign policy and the consequences of that policy," he declared. "A Muslim cannot be happy with the suffering of others. Even if this suffering is that of Americans who neglected the suffering of Palestinians for half a century." That’s the real Khashoggi, a cynical and manipulative apologist for Islamic terrorism, not the mythical martyred dissident whose disappearance the media has spent the worst part of a week raving about. Jamal Khashoggi was not a moderate. Some describe him as the leader of the Saudi Muslim Brotherhood. The Islamist network admires Hitler and seeks to impose Islamic law around the world. Nor was he a supporter of freedom of the press. In one of his Al Jazeera appearances, he complained that the Saudi government was allowing some journalists to report positively on Israel. His final project, DAWN or Democracy for the Arab World Now was meant to aid Islamists. According to Azzam Al-Tamimi, an old Muslim Brotherhood ally aiding Jamal, "The Muslim Brothers and Islamists were the biggest victims of the foiled Arab spring." Al-Tamimi has endorsed suicide bombings. But unlike Osama bin Laden, Khashoggi did not use the Muslim Brotherhood as a gateway drug to the pure and uncut violence of Al Qaeda or ISIS. He was still betting on a political takeover. As he recently put it, “Democracy and political Islam go together.” Khashoggi went on making the case for the Islamic state of the Muslim Brotherhood. He went on making that case even as the Saudis decided that the Brotherhood had become too dangerous. Like his old friend, Jamal Khashoggi went into exile in a friendly Islamist country. Osama bin Laden found refuge in Pakistan and Khashoggi ended up in Turkey. The Khashoggi family had originated from Turkey. And Turkey was swiftly becoming the leading Sunni Islamist power in the region. Living in Turkey put Khashoggi at the intersection of the Turkish-Qatari backers of the Brotherhood and the Western media. His disappearance has touched off fury and anger from the Islamist regime that harbored him. And it has also set off an unprecedented firestorm of rage and grief by the American media which adored him. Media spin describes Khashoggi as a dissident. And he certainly was that. But so was Osama bin Laden. What Khashoggi wasn’t, was a moderate. No more so than the Muslim Brotherhood. He wasn’t a proponent of human rights, but of Islamic rule. He could be found on Al Jazeera, Qatar’s Jihadist propaganda network, bemoaning Saudi opposition to the Brotherhood and its friendliness to Israel. "Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman should get rid of his complex against the Muslim Brotherhood and stop treating them as the enemy or a threat to Saudi Arabia," he complained, and urged the Saudis to fight Israel instead. Jamal Khashoggi’s career of spouting Muslim Brotherhood propaganda for his new Turkish and Qatari masters came to an end in a curious way. Before Khashoggi allegedly entered the Saudi embassy, from which Turkey claims that he disappeared, he told his Turkish fiancé to call Yasin Aktay if he didn’t return. Yasin Aktay is the Turkish equivalent of Obama’s Ben Rhodes, and served as the AKP Islamist ruling party’s spokesman. Why call one of the regime’s top propagandists instead of the police? Before the summer coup of 2016, Turkey was said to have 50,000 political prisoners. Many of them were members of the country’s oppressed Kurdish minority which is deprived of its most basic civil rights. These include even the use of their own language. Doing so can carry a prison sentence. In that terrible summer, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Turkey’s Islamic tyrant, finished securing his absolute hold on power with the coup as his Reichstag fire. The alleged coup became a blank check for the mass arrest and torture of countless thousands of political prisoners. Amnesty International estimated that 50,000 had been detained. The UN listed a figure as high as 180,000. They included 300 journalists. Lawyers described clients being brought to them covered in blood. Erdogan went after professors, judges, law enforcement, the military and the last remnants of a free press. A Human Rights Watch report documented electric shocks, beatings with truncheons and rubber hoses, and rape by Erdogan’s Islamic thugs. Heads were banged against walls. Men were forced to kneel on burning hot asphalt. Medical reports showed skull fractures, damage to testicles and dehydration. The media didn’t show any of the hysterical outrage at these crimes that it has over the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi. The media cares more about Khashoggi, a former media mouthpiece of the Saudi regime before it turned on his Muslim Brotherhood brothers, than about 300 Turkish reporters. It’s not hypocrisy, it’s consistency. Erdogan and Khashoggi are both militant Islamic activists. And their opponents, the victims of Erdogan’s Reichstag fire and the new Saudi king, had fallen afoul of them for being insufficiently militantly Islamist. The media will always take the side of Islamists over non-Islamists. That’s why it bleeds for Khashoggi. There was a reason why Jamal Khashoggi felt so comfortable in Turkey, while actual journalists in the country were terrified of being locked up, tortured and disappeared. If that was the fate that befell Khashoggi, it was a commonplace one in Turkey. And it may have been carried out by his own Turkish allies who decided that their Saudi subversive had more value as a false flag martyr than a house guest. The media’s disproportionate outrage over Khashoggi has nothing to do with human rights. If it did, the media would have been just as outraged at the arrests and torture of tens of thousands in Turkey. It’s not. And it won’t be. And the politicians shrilly urging that we punish the Saudis never thought about curtailing arms sales to Turkey. Many of the same politicians were unhappy when President Trump used economic pressure on Erdogan in an effort to free American hostages, like Pastor Andrew Brunson, being held by Turkey. This is about Islam. The struggle between Saudi Arabia and the UAE on the one hand, and Turkey, Qatar and Iran on the other, is the next stage of the Arab Spring. And, from Yemen to Turkey, the media has made no secret of being on the Islamist side. Its outrage over Khashoggi, like its claims of a human rights crisis over the Saudi bombings in Yemen, are not journalism, they’re the political spin of the Islamist axis. The media has reported every claim of victimhood by the Muslim Brotherhood and Qatar’s Al Jazeera propaganda arm, while giving as little attention as possible to the victims of Muslim Brotherhood church bombings. Its coverage of Israel has been little more than terrorist propaganda since Osama was in diapers. Its coverage of the Khashoggi case is every bit as dishonest as its slanted attacks on the Saudi embargo of Qatar, as its propaganda about the wars in Yemen and Libya, and just as devoid of context. The Khashoggi case demands context. Before the media and the politicians who listen to it drag the United States into a conflict with Saudi Arabia over a Muslim Brotherhood activist based on the word of an enemy country still holding Americans hostage, we deserve the context. And we deserve the truth. The media wants the Saudis to answer questions about Jamal Khashoggi. But maybe the media should be forced to answer why the Washington Post was working with a Muslim Brotherhood propagandist? The real mystery isn’t Khashoggi’s disappearance. It’s why Republicans aren’t asking those questions. The media’s relationship with Khashoggi is far more damning than anything the Saudis might have done to him. And the media should be held accountable for its relationship with Osama bin Laden’s old friend.
56 posted on 11/21/2018 2:56:08 AM PST by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: monkeyshine
Exactly. The death of Jamal Kashoggi morphed into and opportunity for the deep staters and the mockingbirds that are ever so pervasive in the NYT and the WaPost to go after the alliance and DJT. Just one more reason to impeach the potus.
The alliance is between the US,Israel and Saudi Arabia. It's responsible for every thing from the way we wage war in the mid east now with the Saudis taking the lead and we providing whatever assistance they need to lower gas prices. It is also working on dislodging the mullahs from Iran the only way it can be done.From within. There are thousands within Iran who want freedom from the mullahs and to control their own destiny. Trump and the alliance are tapping into these forces and it won't be long until the mullahs are so unpopular that they leave on their own which is the best way for the chaos in Iran to resolve.
What was not mentioned was the fact that Jamal was the heir apparent to the vast fortune and smuggling operation of his late Uncle Adnan Kashoggi.
In business since the Iran contra days uncle Adnan had to have been connected to the CIA otherwise his decades long run of smuggling everything from guns,to weapons,drugs, body parts,humans and whatever would have folded long ago simply from other competitors if not the law.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-14/did-saudis-cia-fear-khashoggi-911-bombshell
“He was formerly a media aide to Prince Turki al Faisal, who is an eminence gris figure in Saudi intelligence, with its systematic relations to American and British counterparts. Prince Turki’s father, Faisal, was formerly the king of Saudi Arabia until his assassination in 1975 by a family rival. Faisal was a half-brother of the present king, Salman, and therefore Prince Turki is a cousin of the Crown Prince – albeit at 73 more than twice his age.”

For nearly 23 years, from 1977 to 2001, Prince Turki was the director of the Mukhabarat, the Saudi state intelligence apparatus. He was instrumental in Saudi, American and British organization of the mujahideen fighters in Afghanistan to combat Soviet forces. Those militants in Afghanistan later evolved into the al Qaeda terror network, which has served as a cat’s paw in various US proxy wars across the Middle East, North Africa and Central Asia, including Russia’s backyard in the Caucasus.”
Bottom line Jamal had intel sources that only equate to our cia or nsa people would have.To think that the cia did not have eyes on him forever or more likely he was a cia double agent would be naive.
Knowing that Jamal was a smuggler, MB higher up advocating Islamic takeovers worldwide a cia mockingbird journalist the CIA would have found him incredibly useful.
This would not have gone unnoticed by the kingdom either. They are not or never were asleep on such aspects.
Rumors are that MBS had cleaned up the kingdom and instead of jailing the rich Saudi bad guys was forcing them to pay restitution to the kingdom through MBS. Its likely that Jamal was one of those reluctantly paying restitution.It's also likely he was not that happy about it and had decided to see if he could institute a coup by turning some of MBS’s closest allies who surround ed him almost daily.
This is why everyone in turkey at the Saudi embassy was close to MBS and also why Jamal entered the embassy unafraid of what would happen since he thought he was instituting a coup.Had he really feared for his life he would have brought all kinds of security which he didn't bother to do.
It appears the meeting between Jamal and mbs supporters when terribly wrong and as they say the rest is history.
Was MBS even aware of what was transpiring? Hard to say we many never know.
Either way Jamal was a bad guy doing bad things and may well have got what he deserved.

57 posted on 11/21/2018 3:22:20 AM PST by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: monkeyshine

That’s very likely since their(mullahs) wealth has surely already been well hidden most likely with hillarys in Qatar. That being said it’s a small world if you have Israel,the US and Saudi Arabia all looking for you!!There will be few places to hide.


58 posted on 11/21/2018 3:25:07 AM PST by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: monkeyshine
Remember as an old religious sage once said: It's never over til' it's over!! Mullah Yogi,(LOL)
59 posted on 11/21/2018 3:26:40 AM PST by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: rodguy911
this is a lot more readable! ............... When the other 19 hijackers perpetrated the attacks of September 11, Khashoggi wrote that the Saudis would not “give in” to American “demands” for “unconditional condemnation” and “total cooperation”. "Saudis tend to link the ugliness of what happened in New York and Washington with what has happened and continues to happen in Palestine.

It is time that the United States comes to understand the effect of its foreign policy and the consequences of that policy," he declared. "A Muslim cannot be happy with the suffering of others. Even if this suffering is that of Americans who neglected the suffering of Palestinians for half a century.

" That’s the real Khashoggi, a cynical and manipulative apologist for Islamic terrorism, not the mythical martyred dissident whose disappearance the media has spent the worst part of a week raving about. Jamal Khashoggi was not a moderate.

Some describe him as the leader of the Saudi Muslim Brotherhood. The Islamist network admires Hitler and seeks to impose Islamic law around the world. Nor was he a supporter of freedom of the press. In one of his Al Jazeera appearances, he complained that the Saudi government was allowing some journalists to report positively on Israel. His final project, DAWN or Democracy for the Arab World Now was meant to aid Islamists.

According to Azzam Al-Tamimi, an old Muslim Brotherhood ally aiding Jamal, "The Muslim Brothers and Islamists were the biggest victims of the foiled Arab spring." Al-Tamimi has endorsed suicide bombings. But unlike Osama bin Laden, Khashoggi did not use the Muslim Brotherhood as a gateway drug to the pure and uncut violence of Al Qaeda or ISIS. He was still betting on a political takeover. As he recently put it, “Democracy and political Islam go together.”

Khashoggi went on making the case for the Islamic state of the Muslim Brotherhood. He went on making that case even as the Saudis decided that the Brotherhood had become too dangerous. Like his old friend, Jamal Khashoggi went into exile in a friendly Islamist country. Osama bin Laden found refuge in Pakistan and Khashoggi ended up in Turkey.

The Khashoggi family had originated from Turkey. And Turkey was swiftly becoming the leading Sunni Islamist power in the region. Living in Turkey put Khashoggi at the intersection of the Turkish-Qatari backers of the Brotherhood and the Western media.

His disappearance has touched off fury and anger from the Islamist regime that harbored him. And it has also set off an unprecedented firestorm of rage and grief by the American media which adored him. Media spin describes Khashoggi as a dissident.

And he certainly was that. But so was Osama bin Laden. What Khashoggi wasn’t, was a moderate. No more so than the Muslim Brotherhood. He wasn’t a proponent of human rights, but of Islamic rule. He could be found on Al Jazeera, Qatar’s Jihadist propaganda network, bemoaning Saudi opposition to the Brotherhood and its friendliness to Israel. "Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman should get rid of his complex against the Muslim Brotherhood and stop treating them as the enemy or a threat to Saudi Arabia," he complained, and urged the Saudis to fight Israel instead.

Jamal Khashoggi’s career of spouting Muslim Brotherhood propaganda for his new Turkish and Qatari masters came to an end in a curious way. Before Khashoggi allegedly entered the Saudi embassy, from which Turkey claims that he disappeared, he told his Turkish fiancé to call Yasin Aktay if he didn’t return. Yasin Aktay is the Turkish equivalent of Obama’s Ben Rhodes, and served as the AKP Islamist ruling party’s spokesman. Why call one of the regime’s top propagandists instead of the police?

Before the summer coup of 2016, Turkey was said to have 50,000 political prisoners. Many of them were members of the country’s oppressed Kurdish minority which is deprived of its most basic civil rights. These include even the use of their own language. Doing so can carry a prison sentence. In that terrible summer, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Turkey’s Islamic tyrant, finished securing his absolute hold on power with the coup as his Reichstag fire.

The alleged coup became a blank check for the mass arrest and torture of countless thousands of political prisoners. Amnesty International estimated that 50,000 had been detained. The UN listed a figure as high as 180,000. They included 300 journalists. Lawyers described clients being brought to them covered in blood.

Erdogan went after professors, judges, law enforcement, the military and the last remnants of a free press. A Human Rights Watch report documented electric shocks, beatings with truncheons and rubber hoses, and rape by Erdogan’s Islamic thugs. Heads were banged against walls. Men were forced to kneel on burning hot asphalt. Medical reports showed skull fractures, damage to testicles and dehydration. The media didn’t show any of the hysterical outrage at these crimes that it has over the disappearance of Jamal Khashoggi. The media cares more about Khashoggi, a former media mouthpiece of the Saudi regime before it turned on his Muslim Brotherhood brothers, than about 300 Turkish reporters.

It’s not hypocrisy, it’s consistency. Erdogan and Khashoggi are both militant Islamic activists. And their opponents, the victims of Erdogan’s Reichstag fire and the new Saudi king, had fallen afoul of them for being insufficiently militantly Islamist. The media will always take the side of Islamists over non-Islamists. That’s why it bleeds for Khashoggi.

There was a reason why Jamal Khashoggi felt so comfortable in Turkey, while actual journalists in the country were terrified of being locked up, tortured and disappeared. If that was the fate that befell Khashoggi, it was a commonplace one in Turkey. And it may have been carried out by his own Turkish allies who decided that their Saudi subversive had more value as a false flag martyr than a house guest.

The media’s disproportionate outrage over Khashoggi has nothing to do with human rights. If it did, the media would have been just as outraged at the arrests and torture of tens of thousands in Turkey. It’s not. And it won’t be. And the politicians shrilly urging that we punish the Saudis never thought about curtailing arms sales to Turkey. Many of the same politicians were unhappy when President Trump used economic pressure on Erdogan in an effort to free American hostages, like Pastor Andrew Brunson, being held by Turkey. This is about Islam.

The struggle between Saudi Arabia and the UAE on the one hand, and Turkey, Qatar and Iran on the other, is the next stage of the Arab Spring. And, from Yemen to Turkey, the media has made no secret of being on the Islamist side. Its outrage over Khashoggi, like its claims of a human rights crisis over the Saudi bombings in Yemen, are not journalism, they’re the political spin of the Islamist axis. The media has reported every claim of victimhood by the Muslim Brotherhood and Qatar’s Al Jazeera propaganda arm, while giving as little attention as possible to the victims of Muslim Brotherhood church bombings.

Its coverage of Israel has been little more than terrorist propaganda since Osama was in diapers. Its coverage of the Khashoggi case is every bit as dishonest as its slanted attacks on the Saudi embargo of Qatar, as its propaganda about the wars in Yemen and Libya, and just as devoid of context.

The Khashoggi case demands context. Before the media and the politicians who listen to it drag the United States into a conflict with Saudi Arabia over a Muslim Brotherhood activist based on the word of an enemy country still holding Americans hostage, we deserve the context.

And we deserve the truth. The media wants the Saudis to answer questions about Jamal Khashoggi. But maybe the media should be forced to answer why the Washington Post was working with a Muslim Brotherhood propagandist? The real mystery isn’t Khashoggi’s disappearance. It’s why Republicans aren’t asking those questions.

The media’s relationship with Khashoggi is far more damning than anything the Saudis might have done to him. And the media should be held accountable for its relationship with Osama bin Laden’s old friend.

60 posted on 11/21/2018 3:40:21 AM PST by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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