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After ICE Raid, A Shortage Of Welders In Tigertown, Texas
NPR ^ | October 19, 2018 | John Burnett

Posted on 10/19/2018 7:14:14 AM PDT by gattaca

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To: Lurkinanloomin

When the government is giving away money to people who don’t want to work and incentivizes them not to work...they won’t work.

When people need to eat and support their families, and there aren’t government handouts, you would be surprised to see just how many Americans would do that job that Americans won’t do.

I have been blessed both by my military service and my parents who instilled in me that there is no job beneath you. You do what you must to pay your own way and get the job done. I have no doubt that if I have to, I can scrub toilets, clean floors or handle rotting garbage, and I can do it to get a paycheck, no matter how small.

To me, being self sufficient and a contributor to society is far more important than taking the false view that my worth to society is commensurate with the low pay I might get for doing a job (which ANYONE is capable of doing with no skill or education) and getting all bent out of shape over it...which is what Leftists encourage.

We need to get rid of the government incentive to NOT work.


61 posted on 10/19/2018 7:54:03 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Persevero

Get rid of welfare for the able-bodied and the lines to apply for the jobs will be a mile long.


62 posted on 10/19/2018 7:54:12 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: gattaca

I hope ICE falls from a great height on the rest of the scofflaws employing illegal workers in this industry and town. Only then will the scales of competition be levelled for all and the employers can figure out how to meet demand legally. Choices could include paying better wages to attract welders from other endeavors, applying a technology solution that requires a capital expenditure, and/or increasing the price of the product to be able to do the two previous suggestions. Since I haven’t seen the actual product or process, I don’t know the best technology solution. I’d look real hard at how to engineer the process to use robotics and/or an automatic submerged arc crawler.


63 posted on 10/19/2018 7:55:04 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: gattaca

Welding would be a great job skill for training prison inmates in the last couple years of their sentences.

Might provide many with a chance at decent employment upon their release.


64 posted on 10/19/2018 7:57:01 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Persevero

Perfect answer. It does take a while for a society to adjust to losing their slaves.


65 posted on 10/19/2018 7:58:25 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: gattaca

After ICE Raid, A Shortage Of Welders In Tigertown, Texas

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There are lots of kids at the school I teach at who want to be welders...excellent!...there should be some new, high-paying jobs for them!


66 posted on 10/19/2018 7:58:57 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: gattaca

Solution: No more luxury handouts. End LBJ’s Great Society bullshit*t. Powdered milk, powdered eggs, large cans of string beans. Purchase clothing at Gooddwill. Zero cell phones. Zero AC. Zero flat screens. Zero chips. Zero cable. Public transportation or walk! Zero cars. Zero donuts. Zero cake. Zero cola. Get your fat ass to work if you want the good stuff.


67 posted on 10/19/2018 8:01:24 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (Grace and Dignity Will Win The Day)
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To: NEMDF

The career and technology school where I work is doing training for recently released convicts under a grant for transition/re-entry training. I get to interact with the instructor quite often as I have employers inquire about how to get the skilled bodies they need to manufacture their product. The instructor tells me most of them work out really well, some become excellent in just the short training course. I’ve been shown some excellent test weld samples by these students. He starts the training with the student doing a MIG weld in the 3G uphill weld position.


68 posted on 10/19/2018 8:03:52 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

They don’t want to pay the wages an American commands. They want experienced welders they can pay 15 bucks an hour instead of 25. Shameful.


69 posted on 10/19/2018 8:07:20 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: T-Bird45

“Once you are illegal, there is no path back to being legal besides returning to your home country and filing the proper application so you can wait your turn in line.”

A lot of people think marrying a U.S. citizen is a “get out of jail free” card. It’s not. I worked with a woman who married an illegal. She had to go live in Mexico for a year (with him, of course) so that he could go through the proper process to get his green card.


70 posted on 10/19/2018 8:15:22 AM PDT by suthener (E)
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To: gattaca
Gee, I guess Tigertown Texas will have to conduct a nation-wide search for AMERICAN CITIZENS to do the job and OFFER THEM SOLID WAGES, INSTEAD OF THE PESOS THEY OFFERED THE ILLEGAL ALIENS!

To bad, so sad; they wouldn't be in this predicament if they had originally HIRED AMERICAN CITIZENS, INSTEAD OF CHEAP LABOR ILLEGALS WHO HAD NO RIGHT TO BE WORKING IN THE FIRST PLACE!

71 posted on 10/19/2018 8:19:31 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Jmouse007
"I think the manufacturing industry in Texas, any kind of steel fabrication construction, depends on illegal immigrant labor," Hiebert says.

It does when your goal is to build Trailers cheap enough it puts other Companies out of business that hire and pay American Citizens to do the work.

These Companies should be publicly shamed and a national boycott of their Products until they are verified as hiring Legal workers. If they can't survive legally that is their choice, NOT a problem that requires ANYONE to support them.

Just like farmers who claim they are going bankrupt growning mellons, pickles etc because they can't find enough workers to pick the crop. NOT MY PROBLEM. They chose to plant that produce. Perhaps next year plant someothing that doesn't require the labor of 1,000 people to harvest it.

If the price of those products become high enough someone will invent a machine to harvest it.

72 posted on 10/19/2018 8:28:18 AM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: gattaca

“What the industry needs are legal guest workers, says Load Trail CEO Hiebert”

Then you had better call up your reps and tell them to support closing the border and enforcing immigration laws, because you are never getting a guest work program until we fix those problems.


73 posted on 10/19/2018 8:29:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: gattaca
Welding is one of the vocations I've been encouraging young folk who don't want to do the college thing. It's sad that illegals are taking it over as well.

"You have to work hard," he says in Spanish.

Says the illegal who hasn't even bothered to learn to speak English.

74 posted on 10/19/2018 8:30:43 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I remember when welders and mechanics made good money.

Now I see ads offering minimum and just barely beyond.

Good riddance.

Hire American!


75 posted on 10/19/2018 8:31:49 AM PDT by Califreak (Take Me Back To Constantinople)
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To: Persevero

Yeah, the real problem is that to raise the wages, they have to raise prices, and that will kill their business unless all the competitors raise their prices too. So the only solution is really universal enforcement so no business gets to undercut everyone else because they are breaking the law.


76 posted on 10/19/2018 8:35:40 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: PapaBear3625

Which really means.. my company is lining their pockets with tax dollars saved by dodging taxes employers pay to hire US citizens so they can deed their families.


77 posted on 10/19/2018 8:36:07 AM PDT by momincombatboots (How many vetoed spending dollars with chuck n Nancy without wall funding?)
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To: PapaBear3625

God forbid these places invest in training. They want fully experienced labor without having to pay for it. So, they get welfare-subsidized illegals.


78 posted on 10/19/2018 8:36:13 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: gattaca

I call bullshit. I can weld steel, aluminum, stainless, nickel, titanium, etc.
I took courses in metallurgy to keep up on the newest trends.
When I went to a boat manufacturing company and showed my certifications they where more than happy to hire me at $15 dollars an hour. II told them I was a certified for underwater welding. They entire place was filled with Cubans. I told then for $15 an hour I’ll weld black steel only.
They wanted me to weld stainless steel tuna towers and high bridges.
I didn’t study for years to become a high grade welder for $15 dollars an hour. I used to at nuclear plants making $46. I will bag groceries before I weld for $15 an hour. This isn’t taught in schools anymore or any other trade raft. These snowflakes need an electrician to install a lightbulb.
I think they almost want it that way. The owner makes a profit, the worker gets paid, and the get to TAX the service.
Why not have an apprenticeship? Bring in some kids that show potential and as they become better advance their skills beyond just welding black steel for trailers. I would be happy to teach anyone that wants to learn but I’m not doing it for 15 bucks an hour.
Lets start at 100k, 2 week vacation,, full medical, 401K, bonus for every student that passes a 6G welding test.
They don’t want o pay a craftsman, they want a yard monkey.
Guess ill stick to bagging groceries.


79 posted on 10/19/2018 8:38:20 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Vigilanteman

We need a bounty system where people who snitch out employers of illegals get a cut of the fines. And the fines need to be significant.


80 posted on 10/19/2018 8:39:31 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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