Posted on 10/24/2018 10:01:16 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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In anticipation of Mr. Sanders’ arrival this week in another Midwestern battleground state, Mark Sommerhauser of the Wisconsin State Journal noted on Thursday that “the policy views Sanders champions have become touchstones for many Democrats here and nationally.” Mr. Sommerhauser adds:
Examples include Sanders’ “Medicare For All” health care plan and his call to raise the minimum wage to $15. Peter Rickman - a Milwaukee labor activist who led Sanders’ Wisconsin delegation to the 2016 Democratic National Convention - said Sanders “created the political space” to tout those issues, as well as free college tuition, within the Democratic mainstream. “Now Medicare For All, it’s not taboo any more,” said state Rep. David Bowen, D-Milwaukee, an early Sanders supporter in 2016.
It’s not taboo because it’s not what it seems. Democrats learned that voters don’t want a monopoly government provider of health services. In June Politico noted that Democratic candidates were being advised that the phrase “single payer” includes the two words “you can’t say in a Democratic ad.”
So the new Democratic strategy is not to say “single payer” even when they mean it. Mr. Sanders is offering what he calls “Medicare for All” even though his plan ends Medicare for everybody. It’s not a drafting error. USA Today notes that the phrase “Medicare for All” polls well and then adds:
But the surveys also show that support erodes when people hear the arguments that the plan could increase taxes or government control. And nearly half of adults surveyed last October falsely assumed they could keep their current insurance under a single-payer plan. “The notion that it’s popular is premised upon people knowing almost nothing about it,” said Matt Bennett, co-founder of the centrist Democratic think tank Third Way.
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The economic ignorance of so many in this country never ceases to amaze me. How can any reasonable person understand the “medicare for all” means ending “medicare as we know it” for the elderly who have paid taxes for it all their lives?
Unless the Federal Government is willing to spend trillions on health care, it’s impossible to make insurance companies accept patients with pre-existing conditions at reasonable premiums. What’s to prevent people from waiting to they get sick to buy coverage?
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything away from you.
All these lies are for us.
For Conservatives.
The Democrats know there is no such thing as free health care.
They put out stuff that makes it look like they believe in free health care so we don’t see that they are just a bunch of willing thieves who have no qualms about spending your money for their benefit.
The telling part of this survey is how easily it is to manipulate the public. I wish the public was more cynical but it isn’t. If you tell them you are going to give them “free” medical care, they want it. They aren’t wary enough that there is no “something for nothing.” But, as the article points out, when you explain that taxes will go through the ceiling and the government will massively increase its control, people don’t want it. So the Dems and their lackeys in the press use the right words to play on the gullible public’s greed to get Dems into office. Then Dems, in turn, will then foist yet another massive expansion of government on the public. And — surprise surprise — THEY will have to pay for it. The magical, elusive “rich” who are suppose do pay for everything won’t materialize to foot the bill for “Medicare for All.”
If DemoCommieRats were honest and people of character, this fake “Pre-existing Condition” lie would go away with two simple sentences.
Move from one carrier to another, any pre-existing condition must be covered.
Cheat the system and don’t pay into insurance but when you get sick, buy insurance, then NO pre-existing condition coverage.
Bingo
Beautiful.
I got laid off at 50, covered all my life. Developed a hereditary condition in my 40’s
So all of a sudden I’m uninsured and with a pre-existing condition, even playing the game by the rules.
Put me in a position like that, where my very life is in danger and all rules are out the window.
It angers me to see folks attempt to pull this sort of thing.
It also angers me when some on the right make statements about how unfair the elderly are, when the elderly of today were forced into playing the game and abiding by the rules they couldn’t control.
I do think SS and Medicare need to be privatized, but it needs to be done for people just entering the work force now, and structured to help them be much more secure than our seniors are today.
I remain convinced that can take place, and the sooner the better.
In a little over two decades, we could already be half-way to totally converting those programs.
This would prevent the government from gaming for votes based on it’s policies for SS and Medicare.
Privatize it now. Lets end this nonsense.
I remain convinced that can take place, and the sooner the better.
You are correct and it isn't that complicated. Chile did it, and quite successfully, under a military dictator. It went something like this:
The ages, of course, can be adjusted or even divided by the birth month 1% or even 0.25% at a time. The so called social security fund, of course, gets depleted sooner but in Chile's case, the economic growth was more than enough to offset it. The government was cut off from a cheap source of borrowing but, of course, a new pool of investment capital to grow the economy more than offset it.
When Chile adopted this plan in the mid 1970s, it was an emerging third world economy. Now, they are definitely in the first world.
As long as there is an equitable way to address it, I think it’s worthy. Perhaps Chile’s plan should be a good basis for the development of a working plan.
Thanks for the mention. I believe I’ve been addressed on this before. It does sound workable.
Democrats want to get rid of Medicare Advantage Plans which many Seniors opt for rather than traditional Medicare A & B and Supplemental Gap Insurance.
The Advantage Plans also negate the Plan D Prescription Drug Plans. In most Population Centers the Advantage Plans have no Monthly Premium.
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