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Over Half Of America Gets More In Welfare Than It Pays In Taxes
Mises ^ | October 24, 2018 | Ryan McCaken

Posted on 10/25/2018 7:22:08 AM PDT by gattaca

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To: Kickass Conservative

The maximum tax for SS in 2018 is 7,980.00 since income taxable for SS is capped at 128,400, plus 1.45% for Medicare. Plus state SS taxes, which in my case are capped at 1,150. How would they have paid 500,000?


41 posted on 10/25/2018 10:44:42 AM PDT by Blooms in CA
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To: kabar
Earmark money we save by NOT supporting damn illegals... and use that money to shore up Social Security.

It's OUR money - we should be able to spend it on the deserving citizens... or whoever we want to spend it on - NOT BE FORCED BY LIBERALS TO SUPPORT MEMBERS OF THEIR 'VICTIM GROUPS'...

ALL illegals should be DEPORTED. This is NOT their country - they are NOT our responsibility.

It'll take an Amendment to the Constitution to get them out and keep them out. That should be our next move.

Amend the Constitution - Get illegals OUT of our country.

42 posted on 10/25/2018 10:44:42 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want dead children & VIOLENCE at the border... for their "Kent State" photo op...)
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To: GOPJ

We don’t need an amendment, just enforce our existing laws.


43 posted on 10/25/2018 11:07:45 AM PDT by kabar
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To: gattaca

Medicare and social security are earned/purchased by us as part of a contract with our government. They are not welfare. Medicaid is welfare, medical care for the indigent and unlucky.


44 posted on 10/25/2018 11:08:01 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: gattaca

1 MEDICARE IS A PRE-PAID PAYROLL TAX
2 SS IS A PRE-PAID PAYROLL TAX

MEDICAID IS TAX DOLLARS GIVEN TO OTHERS IS WELFARE FREEBIE
FOOD STAMPS IS A WELFARE FREEBIE
WIC WELFARE FREEBIE


45 posted on 10/25/2018 11:51:14 AM PDT by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

MEDICARE PART B IS A PREMIUM THAT COMES OUT OF SS CHECKS MONTHLY.

That 2% COLA raise we got this year was a total of $12.00 a year $1.00 a month. $1,569 went to Medicare Part B Premium.

The 2.8% COLA raise we might get is on average $38 a year. Rest is MEDICARE B PREMIUMS.

Part D is a Secondary health ins.

In our case TRICARE LIFE CO-PAYS went UP OVER WIPING OUT the $12.00 a year. It will be the same with this New 2.8% COLA Raise. WE CAME OUT IN THE HOLE. And we still pay Federal Income taxes! We are 70/78. Hubby is a 20 yr Career Navy Ret. SCPO. Taught as a Electronics Prof for Jr College another 20 yrs. Both under paid jobs.

Sex Offender Wiener makes more for serving 1 yr in Congress for a Pension than hubby makes as a 20 yr Career Navy Seaman who started as a E1 ended as a E8, would have made E9 if he were not in the Naval Hospital during Evals that year from a car wreck for 31 days with a broken jaw wired shut, and many teeth missing, 58-80. Blue Water Vietnam Navy, Operation Frequent Wind his responsibility was ‘Electronics’ mainly Communications on the Planes. The AMB. came out on his ship. Then off the coast of Cuba during the Missile Crisis.


46 posted on 10/25/2018 12:09:54 PM PDT by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

My late Pastor worked a 2nd day job for 40 yrs, while he was preaching. First he did a 4 yr stint in the Army prior to Nam.

He retired at 65, DIED at 65 of a massive heart attack at a minister’s conference before he received his first SS check. His wife worked for the State for 40 yrs besides her Pastoral duties as a Pastor’s wife, played the Piano for the Congregation, both those were unpaid positions, She worked for GOD.


47 posted on 10/25/2018 12:18:05 PM PDT by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!)
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To: Kickass Conservative

That $255 is for 1 person, the second gets 0. That is why you pay for Life Insurance. Or if older Pre-paid funerals, plots, opening/closing. The only thing not calculated in is the ‘Beauty Parlor’ services, paying the Preacher and escort to Cemetery. Today many are attached to the Funeral Home. Ours are. Hubby will have a Navy Funeral. Even the headstones are paid for, just need date added.

We just buried his 91 yr old WW2 Navy Veteran brother last year. Died on the OR table for a broken Femur repair. Chemo weaken his bones. DNR in place. SPELL THAT SUCKER OUT WHAT YOU WANT DONE OR THEY DON’T MAKE ANY EFFORT TO RESUSCITATE.


48 posted on 10/25/2018 12:32:03 PM PDT by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!)
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To: kabar

I wish that would work... it won’t.


49 posted on 10/25/2018 1:20:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want dead children & VIOLENCE at the border... for their "Kent State" photo op...)
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To: GOPJ

Getting an amendment thru the approval process is a non-starter.


50 posted on 10/25/2018 1:35:15 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Yeah, but they have to leave that out in order to make the scary headline.

I wonder if they include those payments as "taxes" or not.

51 posted on 10/25/2018 1:39:42 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: Blooms in CA

Employer Matching SS / Medicare, AKA Total Employee Compensation. It’s all part of the Ponzi scheme making ignorant People think they only pay a smaller amount.

Heck, they don’t even realize that they are Taxed on the Deduction from their Paychecks since it comes out of their Gross. Then they are Taxed again when they receive their SS.

People think that the Employer Match is some sort of Gift, It isn’t, it is part of the Total Compensation Package. In other words it’s considered part of your Salary, just like Employer Paid Healthcare.

When these Morons go on and on about $15 a Hour Burger Flipper Jobs, the cost to the Employer is not $15.00, it’s more like $18.00 an Hour.

Both my buddies made really good money for over 30 Years. A rough estimate, if they paid in only $10,000 (their portion and their Employer’s portion) a Year times 30 = $300,000.


52 posted on 10/25/2018 1:44:04 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: kabar
Cutting welfare to illegal aliens will not impact SS.

Actually it will.

The big drain on SS are the so-called "crazy checks" aka disability.

And LOTS of illegal aliens are on disability and have their children on disability and then do not pay a penny into the system and never will.

It is the sucking sound that dare not drool it's name. But hey, let's cut payments to seniors who paid into the system rather then go after the frauds and cheats on "disability".

53 posted on 10/25/2018 1:48:18 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

How do lots of illegals qualify for SS disability payments? They would have to use stolen SS numbers since they can’t obtain them on their own. And you do know that SS disability funds come from their own separate trust fund.


54 posted on 10/25/2018 3:12:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

We have to start somewhere...


55 posted on 10/25/2018 8:59:25 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want dead children & VIOLENCE at the border... for their "Kent State" photo op...)
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