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Saudi Arabia, in Reversal, Suggests Khashoggi’s Killing Was ‘Premeditated’
New York Times ^ | October 25, 2018 | Ben Hubbard and David D. Kirkpatrick

Posted on 10/25/2018 10:21:34 AM PDT by reaganaut1

BEIRUT, Lebanon — Saudi Arabia’s public prosecutor said on Thursday that new evidence indicated that the killing of the dissident Saudi columnist Jamal Khashoggi had been “premeditated,” signaling yet another shift in the kingdom’s official story of his disappearance.

Mr. Khashoggi, a Virginia resident who wrote for The Washington Post, vanished at the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2.

Since then, Saudi officials have said at various points that he left the facility alive and well after a short visit; that he might have been the target of a “rogue” operation by its intelligence service; and, as of last Saturday, that he had been killed accidentally in a brawl that broke out as a team of Saudi agents was merely inviting him to return to the kingdom.

The new account was published Thursday in the Saudi owned media, and it acknowledged Turkish evidence of a planned assassination, which Turkish officials have been describing for weeks.

It adds to the mounting political pressure on the Trump administration to punish the kingdom, whose de facto ruler, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, has been the White House’s closest Arab ally and the driver of its strategies for the region.

The Saudi shift came following a visit to Ankara by Gina Haspel, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency. She had been expected to receive access to an audio recording of the killing and other evidence that the Turks have said prove that Mr. Khashoggi’s killing was ordered at the upper levels of the Saudi royal family.

Sabah, a newspaper close to Turkey’s intelligence agency, reported on Wednesday that Turkish officials had shared the recording and other evidence with Ms. Haspel.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: assassinationplot; khashoggi; saudiarabia

1 posted on 10/25/2018 10:21:34 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
Means, motive, opportunity. Clearly the first and third elements were present.

But, what was the motive for such a flagrantly brutal orchestrated event? Couldn't they find a pro to whack him cleanly?

2 posted on 10/25/2018 10:27:11 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: reaganaut1

Never forget their comic book, the koran, tells them it is ok to lie in order to protect the hate cult of islam.


3 posted on 10/25/2018 10:34:18 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I’m struck by how the media keeps calling emerging news “reversals.”

Let’s suppose, for instance, that the Crown Prince and/or King didn’t plan the killing. Would they have been expected to say, immediately, “yes, our administration killed the guy” without an investigation? Wouldn’t you EXPECT that they’d say, “No, we didn’t do this. That’s now how we roll.?” And then only acknowledge the truth as they uncovered it? Would you think they would NOT presume their own people innocent until the weight of the evidence suggested they were guilty?


4 posted on 10/25/2018 10:34:31 AM PDT by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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To: reaganaut1

The murder was a message the coverup is MBS can’t do anything about it. It is the Religion of piece dispute.


5 posted on 10/25/2018 10:38:16 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: dangus

You misunderstand me.

I don’t know who ordered it. But, obviously it was done, and bungled. And somebody wanted Khashoggi painfully dead rather than just dead.

I wonder why. That might lead us to who.

Motive is an important third part of the “means, motive, opportunity” analysis that applies to many crimes.

Any other suspicions, notwithstanding.


6 posted on 10/25/2018 10:40:34 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: reaganaut1

As stated before..... Don’t Care..... Muzzie on Muzzie murder is standard operations in the ME.....


7 posted on 10/25/2018 11:27:11 AM PDT by Hogblog
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I was criticizing the press, not you.


8 posted on 10/25/2018 1:16:50 PM PDT by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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To: dangus

Oh, so sorry. I thought you assumed I had pre-concluded that the House of Saud was guilty, guilty, guilty. I haven’t... yet... for sure. There may have been a break in the chain of command, or someone may have acted on the sentiment of “who will rid me of this troublesome priest (journalist)?”


9 posted on 10/25/2018 1:18:44 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The house of Saud admits he was killed by their guys. But If a bunch of FBI agents killed someone, would you say Trump was a murderer? Of course not!... until we conducted an investigation finding he had authorized it.


10 posted on 10/25/2018 2:04:48 PM PDT by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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To: dangus

Like I said, some unauthorized action in the chain of command is entirely possible.

Instead of Trump, lets talk Obama. He and Valjar were behind a lot of illegal, nasty stuff. But sometimes people in his administration acted on their own, without direct command.

It could have happened here. I think that we agree on that possibility.

My big wonder, as I said before, is why do it this way? A simple professional anonymous hit would get him out of the way, if that was all that was desired. Somebody really hated Khashoggi.


11 posted on 10/25/2018 2:09:22 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine ("It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: reaganaut1

Not our business.

Daniel Pearl and the Benghazi Four: our business.


12 posted on 10/25/2018 3:10:13 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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