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'Free speech' social platform Gab has gone offline
mashable.com ^ | 10/29/2018 | By Johnny Lieu

Posted on 10/29/2018 6:59:44 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Celerity

Free speech is an illusion, a badly performed magic trick..


61 posted on 10/29/2018 8:42:05 AM PDT by rdiaz1966
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To: rdiaz1966

Free Speech is often misunderstood.

The king never cared if the people on the street talked poorly about him. No ruler really does.

It’s the media. And even in America, after the Revolutionary War, government officials were STILL placed in the printing offices to ensure that things were “truthful”.

Yes, this was in our America.

This is why the amendment was written. The first amendment is there to protect news printers, authors, artists and others who influence our society. Rulers don’t give a crap about what peons say. As long as the peon works the fields and provides the commonwealth they can say whatever they want.

But if someone important says something to get those people out of the fields, then a ruler pays attention. And usually shuts up the critic permanently.

It’s the influencers who are the focus of the freedom of speech.

I have ZERO “right” to say to you things of any topic or nature. I have no right to insult you, say racist crap or anything. I may have a god-given right of being able to move my lips and tongue to make sounds at things but there is no actual right there in the Constitution to do so.

The Second Amendment, of which I bring everything to, also does not give us a right to defend ourselves. That’s a god-given right, something we have a right to anywhere in the universe. This amendment tells the government how to behave in regards to arming us at their expense. Which they wholly have neglected and are derelict in .

Finally, everything in the Constitution is not aimed at us. It does not give us anything. It doesn’t even address us. It’s a rulebook for the government and it tells THEM how to behave. Not us. It tells the government what and how to support us and make us successful.


62 posted on 10/29/2018 8:58:27 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Red Badger

C’mon people. Don’t just scream free speech and condemn. If you were a regular over there then you know it became a cesspool of HATE speech against Jews. You could block people, but the next time you opened Gab there was another one. And this “free speech” discussed killing and murder. For me, that takes MY concept of free speech over the line. I don’t need that crap in my computer screen and I chose to leave it behind. (It makes you realize what a fine line Jim Robinson has to walk and how well he does it.)


63 posted on 10/29/2018 9:02:51 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (We are getting even more than we voted for.)
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To: Red Badger

Racist friendly? That’s the same thing FRs detractors say about us, without bothering to read the responses to truly racist comments appearing here. I’m sure a number of such comments disappear before we see them, but the few remaining generally are rejected by most of us.


64 posted on 10/29/2018 9:09:45 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: z3n
I always used to have as a part of the TOS on my site(s) clauses against hate speech and violence...

But now TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.

65 posted on 10/29/2018 9:11:58 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Perseverando

FreeZoxee looks reasonable. I’ll have to take a closer look at it.


66 posted on 10/29/2018 9:13:13 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I completely agree!


67 posted on 10/29/2018 9:19:05 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies & other Democrats: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: JimRed
But now TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.

The truth is hate to those that hate the truth!

68 posted on 10/29/2018 9:20:19 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies & other Democrats: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Red Badger

The Chiefio pondered the solution to counter censoring the internet, found much of the ground work already done.

“Mesh VPN for P2P Networked Services”

https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/10/29/mesh-vpn-for-p2p-networked-services/


69 posted on 10/29/2018 9:38:29 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Salgak

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I’m well aware of the drawbacks of banking, but the kind of stuff you mention is strictly low level and infrequent.

Can’t support any sizeable operation that way.


70 posted on 10/29/2018 10:13:53 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Perseverando

You really are leftist!! In thought and speech! Why did you even inject child porn?

Speaking of trolls; you fit that perfectly too.


71 posted on 10/29/2018 10:34:11 AM PDT by Boomer (Better Dead Than Dem)
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To: Perseverando

Gab today, freerepublic tomorrow.


72 posted on 10/29/2018 10:41:57 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Boomer
Seriously? In your quest for perfect free speech, tell us, do you defend child pornography (for example) this vigorously?

I'm surprised you're not boycotting FR and Jim Robinson since they block trolls, NeoNazis, and hate speech (whatever that may be, as determined by the mods).

No, I guess you don't, do you?

You still here? I thought you'd be sticking to your principles and boycotting FR.

73 posted on 10/29/2018 10:44:47 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies & other Democrats: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: mrmeyer
Gab today, freerepublic tomorrow.

No argument there.

I detest the neoNazis for their antiSemitic hatred and memes against the evil JOOOOs and hope that they will nevery gain power and credibility they seek. They only believe in free speech until they can beat down those that oppose them, and when they gain power, there is NO free speech. Their heroes and models are Hitler, Goebbels, Eichmann, Mengelo and other mass murderers of mankind.

NeoNazis are not right wing. They are just slightly to the left of Communists, and just another flavor of totalitarians.

I don't claim to own "the truth," just to be a seeker of it.


74 posted on 10/29/2018 11:03:53 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies & other Democrats: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Perseverando
NeoNazis are not right wing. They are just slightly to the left right of Communists, and just another flavor of totalitarians.

Whoops!

75 posted on 10/29/2018 11:07:17 AM PDT by Perseverando (For Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies & other Democrats: It's all about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: SamAdams76

If you don’t think antisemitism exists, you aren’t paying attention. Just because the modern antisemites switched swastika pennants for professorships, don’t believe for a moment that their hatred has abated. There’s a generation of college students who have been indoctrinated more thoroughly than Hitler youth. The vitriolic hatred heaped upon the nation and people of Israel is unrelenting and has become so ubiquitous as to be unremarkable in academic settings.


76 posted on 10/29/2018 11:11:35 AM PDT by antidisestablishment ( Xenophobia is the only sane response to multiculturalismÂ’s irrational cultural exuberance)
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To: Celerity

Yes.

That’s why we need to have binary-gender labeled port-o-potties of hand for and fight. While they turn on those to vent their anger over transphobia we can flank them with heavily armed Rednecks in trucks (cavalry) and crush them.


77 posted on 10/29/2018 11:22:31 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
I visited Gab once and found it to be nasty, filled with racism and anti-Semitism. That being said, my objection is to the consummate hypocrisy of the Borg of Big Tech and their cohorts in the MSM, the tax free foundations, and elsewhere. Stalin and Mao were each responsible for the deaths of far more people than was Hitler. The most oppressive regimes today are either Muslim or Communist. Yet the most insane Communist can spout his vile opinions with zero censorship, while a mildly non-PC remark by Megan Kelly is grounds for her dismissal. I could go on ad infinitum about the double standard, but what must be remembered is that the Left is abandoning any pretense of objectivity or fairness.

I must wonder if the Left suckered conservatives into opposing net neutrality, with the “please don’t throw me into the brier patch” protests they made.

78 posted on 10/29/2018 11:24:00 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

They shut down StormFront and other Neo-Nazi sites. They had to go somewhere.


79 posted on 10/29/2018 11:26:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Perseverando

another site that has popped up is wrongthink.net


80 posted on 10/29/2018 12:04:42 PM PDT by bobcat62
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