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Trump reveals plan to use executive order to end birthright citizenship for children of illegals
American Thinker ^ | 10/30/2018 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/30/2018 8:33:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Expect an explosion of media outrage and high powered lawsuits, especially in jurisdictions with Trump-hating federal judges.  President Trump has launched an October surprise.

Last night in an interview granted to Jonathan Swan of Axios, President Trump announced his plans to use an executive order to end birthright citizenship for children born on American territory to illegal immigrants and foreign citizens, presumably at least those “not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States” as required by the 14th Amendment.

The Washington Post reports

“We’re the only country in the world where a person comes in and has a baby, and the baby is essentially a citizen of the United States for 85 years with all of those benefits,” Trump said during an interview with Axios scheduled to air as part of a new HBO series starting this weekend. “It’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous. And it has to end.”

Trump, who has long decried “anchor babies,” said he has discussed the move with his legal counsel and believes it can be accomplished with executive action, a view at odds with the opinions of many legal scholars.

“It was always told to me that you needed a constitutional amendment. Guess what? You don’t,” Trump told Axios.

When told that view is disputed, Trump asserted: “You can definitely do it with an act of Congress. But now they’re saying I can do it just with an executive order.”

“It’s in the process. It’ll happen . . . with an executive order,” he said, without offering a time frame.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; anchorbabies; executiveorder; illegals; searchworks; trump; trumpeo; trumpillegals
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1 posted on 10/30/2018 8:33:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Trump said point-blank on TV that the troops are going to be building huge tents to hold people, who will be waiting for amnesty processing.

Now, for legal reasons amnesty could be denied to 100% of them but the point absolutely IS that Trump’s plans do include permitting them —maybe all of them— onto US territory.

So US decision makers ARE planning for that Caravan to physically reach the US border and to cross over. That gives the left an opportunity to orchestrate a violent confrontation with US troops.

If the bullet doesn’t come from our side, the left WILL supply it, then blame our side, and the media will absolutely fall into line.

I am wondering:

Does Trump WANT them to cross, the better to build public outrage and support for The Wall..?


2 posted on 10/30/2018 8:35:33 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: SeekAndFind

If your parents are not citizens, and have not arrived LEGALLY then how can you become a citizen?

If you travel on an airplane JUST TO arrive here to give birth, then you should also not be a citizen.

NO OTHER COUNTRY does that. That’s all Trump needs to say. And just do it.

Let them squeal like the little pleasure piggies they are.


3 posted on 10/30/2018 8:37:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: SeekAndFind

After the Civil War there was a new question:

What of the voting rights of newly freed slaves..?

The North wanted them to be voters.

It would be a little too direct to write a law saying, “Hey EVEN black people can vote..”

They made it more indirect:

“If you were born in the USA, then you can vote in the USA”

I believe if a foreign diplomat has kids born in the USA, they are specifically exempted from this voting benefit —they CANNOT vote and are not Americans.

Birth Citizenship originally had NOTHING to do with people coming here and then having kids, it was about BLACK PEOPLE.


4 posted on 10/30/2018 8:39:48 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin
"Last night in an interview granted to Jonathan Swan of Axios, President Trump announced his plans to use an executive order to end birthright citizenship for children born on American territory to illegal immigrants and foreign citizens.."

President Trump could explode more liberal heads by making this executive order retroactive.

5 posted on 10/30/2018 8:39:58 AM PDT by chief lee runamok (mongrel at large)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama use an EO for DACA. I don’t remember the left caring then.


6 posted on 10/30/2018 8:41:22 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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7 posted on 10/30/2018 8:41:34 AM PDT by Red Badger (I lie to pollsters......................ALL Of THEM!...................)
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To: chief lee runamok

8 posted on 10/30/2018 8:42:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (I lie to pollsters......................ALL Of THEM!...................)
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To: gaijin

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”


Here is the thing: A newborn or infant child resides where his parents do. If a french couple on vacation has a baby in the US, so the couple, though visiting the US, resides in France, and they are subject to the jurisdiction of france, not the US. And if they are here illegally, they don’t legally reside here either. Being somewhere is not the same as residing there or being subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

Q.E.D.


9 posted on 10/30/2018 8:42:52 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: SeekAndFind

If President Trump is going to try and end birthright citizenship via executive order I hope he takes a sobering few minutes to share a detailed and clear civics lesson, point by point, why this is correct interpretation of the 14th amendment, why he has the authority, and why now. I agree with the long overdue action, but fear a debacle if put out there without explanation, leaving interpretation to the media. And I say try, because if not clear in action, he’ll have this stopped by the court before the ink has dried. Too bad we cannot revoke any received in the past but I suspect that would be a non-starter.


10 posted on 10/30/2018 8:45:09 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: gaijin
“Trump said point-blank on TV that the troops are going to be building huge tents to hold people, who will be waiting for amnesty processing.”

SUCH a bad idea. Look at the situation with refugees anywhere on earth... Kurds, Israelis, Pakistanis, etc.

If you are right your are wrong, if you are wrong, you are wrong!

It's a Lose/Lose situation for EVERYONE concerned. It is the black eye from which the US will NEVER recover. No amount of comforts, food, medical attention will counter what will go on in those 'camps'. Bank on it!! PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS!!!!

11 posted on 10/30/2018 8:47:00 AM PDT by SMARTY (Hatred is a feeling which leads to the extinction of values. Ortega y Gasset)
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To: SeekAndFind

FINALLY!!!


12 posted on 10/30/2018 8:48:13 AM PDT by LTC.Ret
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To: SeekAndFind

Make it retroactive 50 years and drop fliers on the caravans.


13 posted on 10/30/2018 8:48:45 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: cuban leaf

In the past 15 years, Ireland, New Zealand and Australia have all revoked citizenship for children of illegal aliens. European countries have never had this stupid policy. Changing this pernicious practice in the USA is long overdue.


14 posted on 10/30/2018 8:49:09 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: gaijin

“...After the Civil War there was a new question:
What of the voting rights of newly freed slaves...”
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The 14th amendment was not about voting rights, if it was,
we would not have needed the 15th and 19th amendments.


15 posted on 10/30/2018 8:49:10 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: gaijin

They should NEVER be allowed in. NEVER.


16 posted on 10/30/2018 8:49:35 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: cuban leaf
So simple, but Trump will have an uphill battle explaining this and why reset to clear or original interpretation after so many years of freely giving out citizenship to anchor babies.

Hey, retroactively, this removes citizenship from Kamala Harris, Nikki Haley, and others. Even Little Marco?

17 posted on 10/30/2018 8:50:17 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The Washington Post reports...”

Translation:

“Stop reading now. You’re wasting your time, because everything you’re about to read is propaganda.”


18 posted on 10/30/2018 8:51:14 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: SeekAndFind
"“It’s in the process. It’ll happen . . . with an executive order,” I sure hope this happens. The USA is overloaded right now, ….. way over capacity. These illegals are going to have to go and straighten out their own Country. The USA is over loaded and no more can be accepted. Game Over for the Gravy Train.
19 posted on 10/30/2018 8:52:37 AM PDT by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: SeekAndFind
Trump finally will use the executive order and he must declare the Federal Judges guilty of treason if they fight it. Time to kick these rotten communists judges in the ars. Trump has the power to ignore these Judges.
20 posted on 10/30/2018 8:55:03 AM PDT by Logical me
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