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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is amazing how hard some people will work to confuse simple issues. Biological sex is binary. Gender has traditionally been understood as synonymous with biological sex. Gender identity and gender roles are something else.

Why not just add a line to the standard forms: (a) biological sex/gender; and (b) preferred gender identity. Problem solved.

In the corporate world, it is difficult to think of any role that is formally gendered anyhow. (Informal conventions are a different matter.) Corporations invariably have a stated goal of treating all people with dignity and respect. Corporations invariably pledge to respect the confidentiality of people's personal information. So the question arises: just where exactly, in today's corporate world, might a conflict arise in this area? I suppose one would have to make firm decisions about insurance premiums and annuity payouts based on actuarial tables. What else? I suppose there might be quarrels over assigning gender fluid people to one side or the other in assessing compliance with gender hiring/promotion targets, but as a practical matter, the number of trans people is so small that this is a fairly incidental concern. Is the fuss over getting health insurance policies to cover "sex change" surgeries? What else?

There is an awfully lot of straining in the attached corporate statement to make an issue out of something that seems almost invisibly trivial in terms of real world implications.

Trannies in women's athletics is a real issue. Mixing the sexes in intimate quarters -- locker rooms, showers, dormitory housing, etc. -- is a real issue. But these aren't really relevant to the corporate world.

12 posted on 11/01/2018 10:05:34 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: sphinx

I have the same problem with “Marriage equality”

So many people are hung up on what the state thinks about marriage. The state shouldn’t have a say in the matter - those seeking state approvals have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they want the tax rebates.

It’s not about love (Buy a damned ring) it’s not about kids (That choice can’t produce a child) and it’s not about getting married in a church (I can’t get married in a mosque because we believe very different things. I got over that pretty quickly).

It’s about money. Today’s sex argument isn’t about anything but extra privileges above and beyond what others have. It’s status.


28 posted on 11/01/2018 10:42:02 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: sphinx
Great post!

Indeed, sex and gender are not interchangable terms. Sex is biological and gender just a social-psychological construct. The confusion is deliberate. Conflating the terms makes rational debate impossible. Take back control of the language.

35 posted on 11/01/2018 2:49:48 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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