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Trump, Putin, Erdogan to meet in Paris for World War I Centenary Services
The Guardian ^ | Nov 5, 2018 | Patrick Wintour

Posted on 11/05/2018 9:21:15 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

Donald Trump is to hold meetings with Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in Paris as world leaders arrive in western Europe for ceremonies to mark 100 years since the end of the first world war.

Emmanuel Macron, the French president and host for the armistice ceremonies in Paris on 11 November, hopes to use the emotion of the occasion to warn that a nationalist resurgence led by authoritarian leaders – an outcome of the flawed ending of the first world war – will threaten liberal democracies and the institutions of multilateralism, the chief outcome of the second world war.

In an interview with the Ouest-France newspaper Macron warned against complacency: “In a Europe divided by fears, nationalist assertions and the consequences of the economic crisis, we see in an almost methodical manner the rearticulation of everything that dominated life in Europe from post-world war I to the 1929 crisis.”

The Elysée says that more than 100 foreign dignitaries representing states that fought in the first world war are due to attend the armistice ceremonies which will, on the instruction of Macron, be stripped of militarism. As many as 20 African leaders are also due to attend.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 19181111; angelamerkel; armisticeday; brexit; centenary; emmanuelmacron; erdogan; europeanunion; france; germany; kurdistan; macron; nato; paris; receptayyiperdogan; thegreatwar; theresamay; turkey; unitedkingdom; veteransday; worldwar1; wwi

1 posted on 11/05/2018 9:21:15 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Why is Putin attending. The Bolsheviks gave away the store to the Germans to get out of the war.


2 posted on 11/05/2018 9:22:52 AM PST by C19fan
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Trump should go to Warsaw to celebrate the 100-year anniversary of Polish Independence.


3 posted on 11/05/2018 9:22:53 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: C19fan
Good question. The only good things to come out of that war were:
  1. Breakup of the Ottoman Empire and Modernization of Turkey.
  2. Independence for Poland.
  3. Independence for the Baltic States.
  4. Independence for Finland.

4 posted on 11/05/2018 9:27:32 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: C19fan

That’s what I was wondering...


5 posted on 11/05/2018 9:32:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Vigilanteman

“Aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”

That war killed roughly 10,000 men a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year, for over four years.

Roughly twice as many were wounded.

Europe never recovered.


6 posted on 11/05/2018 9:49:53 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Archduke Francis Ferdinand, whose assassination lit the fuse for that stupid war, was actually a fairly enlightened leader. He envisioned a collection of semi-autonomous states under the Austro-Hungarian umbrella as sort of a free trade union in a constitutional monarchy.
7 posted on 11/05/2018 10:05:22 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Erodagan can stay home imho!


8 posted on 11/05/2018 10:24:13 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

Turkey was on the losing side.


9 posted on 11/05/2018 10:27:25 AM PST by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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Turkey appeared to becoming a civilized country before its current leader got in. Now it’s no friend to USA or the west. Hoping it can return to a less islamonazi- oriented government soon. But yes, turkey of old did lose in ww2. So I guess a memorial is understandable


10 posted on 11/05/2018 10:32:24 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

WW1, I think it was on our side during WW2.


11 posted on 11/05/2018 10:40:43 AM PST by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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“WW1, I think it was on our side during WW2.”

Turkey was allied with Germany in WWI, and was neutral in WWII.


12 posted on 11/05/2018 10:44:50 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Horrendous casualties in WW I brought about the abdication of the Tsar. Horrendous casualties at Gallipoli in Turkey brought about Winston Churchill’s resignation. As the world fell apart, America stepped forward into a position of global leadership. There, that’s all I know about WW I.


13 posted on 11/05/2018 11:03:50 AM PST by Ciexyz (I have one issue and it's my ecxonomic well-being.)
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To: Vigilanteman

5. Chechia 10/28


14 posted on 11/05/2018 11:30:46 AM PST by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Vigilanteman
The assassination of Franz Ferdinand was so absurdly realized that were it to appear in a movie you'd probably laugh at the silliness of the plot. A couple of nuts who wanted freedom for Bosnia planned to lob bombs and shoot at his car but all of them chickened out except one, whose bomb was thrown but bounced off and injured bystanders and some army officers in the car behind the Dukes. The Duke himself was left unharmed.

The guy who threw the bomb was arrested but the ringleader wasn't. He was hanging around at a coffee house moaning about his lost opportunity when the Duke, who'd decided to visit the wounded from the grenade attack, came driving by and the car stopped to turn around because it had taken a wrong turn. It was stopped right in front of where the ringleader was sitting. The assassin couldn't believe his luck and while the car was stopped he ran up and shot the Duke. The Duke was wounded and he couldn't be attended to quickly enough to stop the bleeding on scene because he'd been sewn into his clothes so they'd be a perfect fit. Nobody had scissors or a knife to cut them open and he bled out en route to the hospital.

And after this absurd scenario, too ridiculous for fiction, the world saw years of perhaps the most senseless and brutal fighting it's ever seen.

15 posted on 11/05/2018 11:34:59 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: C19fan
Why is Putin attending.

I guess another good question is why isn't Merkel? The war ended badly for Germany and the peace imposed was so harsh yet poorly enforced that it made WW2 almost inevitable but still, if it's to commemorate the end of the war and not to gloat over the victory, why not have all parties? Especially of Turkey is there, who were allied with Germany!

16 posted on 11/05/2018 11:38:48 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: pepsi_junkie
A couple of other little details. The nuts were actually Serbians, not Bosnians. However, the Serbs in Bosnia were closely aligned and brought their Russian cousins into the war.

Following the breakup of Yugoslavia, some 70 odd years and two world wars later, Serbia was careful to only declare independence in the area where there were few ROPers (3%). . . which is why they mostly avoided the bloody civil war in which Bosnia and Herzegovina (51% ROPers) became entangled thereafter.

They suffered mostly from Clinton's high altitude bombing rather than the mass genocide of their neighbor.

17 posted on 11/05/2018 12:09:59 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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King William’s Great Patriotic War Against The Serbs.


18 posted on 11/05/2018 5:46:20 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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