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2002: Ice Ages Look Like Super El Niņos
Nature.com ^ | Published online 12 July 2002 | Philip Ball

Posted on 11/05/2018 3:48:29 PM PST by Openurmind

Climatologists find familiar fluctuations in Pacific's past - test. “During past ice ages the tropical Pacific Ocean behaved rather as it does today in an El Niño event, bringing downpours to some places and drought to others.” Thus began a 2002 article Nature magazine (12 Jul 2002)

For example, it could explain the low atmospheric levels of greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide, during the last ice age. It is not clear whether this was a cause or a consequence of the difference in global climate, but such decreases would have lowered global temperatures still further, maintaining ice-age conditions.

"It’s not global warming, it’s ocean warming, and it’s leading into the next ice age."

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: carbondioxide; catastrophism; glaciation; globalwarminghoax; gradualistnonsense; iceages; methane; nitrousoxide
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1 posted on 11/05/2018 3:48:29 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Openurmind

I predict we will have weather.


2 posted on 11/05/2018 3:54:08 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Openurmind

The diesel SUVS the Neanderthals drove did NOT have any catalytic converters at all.


3 posted on 11/05/2018 3:54:55 PM PST by BipolarBob
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To: Openurmind

Ice Ages Look Like Super El Niños

Not to mention that apparently we are heading into another GMS or Grand Solar Minimum and all the other crazy stuff what goes along with it, and it certainly will not be global warming.


4 posted on 11/05/2018 3:58:09 PM PST by saintgermaine (saintgermaine the time traveller)
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To: Openurmind

The Super El Niño comes smothered in red or green chile and your choice of two sides.


5 posted on 11/05/2018 4:03:16 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Openurmind

The more some of these folks pretend to know, the less it appears they actually know.


6 posted on 11/05/2018 4:04:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 $215.71 from 50% increase in 1.2183 yrs)
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To: BipolarBob

The diesel SUVS the Neanderthals drove did NOT have any catalytic converters at all.


They only came to Diesel after so many were complaining about the lead in regular gasoline. It was quite a fight, but when they finally perfected their time machine, they leaped into the future and kidnapped Herr Diesel. And now you know the REST of the story ...


7 posted on 11/05/2018 4:04:20 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Openurmind

Well, now warm weather causes glaciers.
Amazing.


8 posted on 11/05/2018 4:08:28 PM PST by ZULU (Jeff Sessions should be tried for sedition.)
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To: SpaceBar
The Super El Niño comes smothered in red or green chile and your choice of two sides.

And when it begins to pass on, it creates a mighty wind ...

9 posted on 11/05/2018 4:12:52 PM PST by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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To: DannyTN

....and place another twenty bucks on the sun rising in the east tomorrow....


10 posted on 11/05/2018 4:13:24 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Openurmind

Until someone convincingly proves to the contrary (Meaning physical evidence not computer simulations!) we are still in the Quaternary - a time of cyclic transcontinental glaciations. They key word is “cyclic”, we are currently in a lull and have been for the last say 20,000 years or so. There is no reason to think the “lull” will continue.


11 posted on 11/05/2018 4:14:26 PM PST by Reily
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Were these “scientists” expecting the Quaternary glacial-interglacial cycle that has been ongoing for the last 2.5 million years to come to an end now for some reason?


12 posted on 11/05/2018 4:14:50 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AnalogReigns; AndrewC; aragorn; ...
Wrong in 2002, wrong now. Doesn't even work to undermine the global warming hoax to much extent.

13 posted on 11/05/2018 4:24:03 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: Openurmind

Interesting, thanks for posting.


14 posted on 11/05/2018 4:25:40 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Stop The Madness. Do Not Respond To Vanity Posts.)
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To: saintgermaine

The idea that the oceans warm when the atmosphere gets colder makes sense. Something has to extract the the heat from the air. Just like A/C, there are two halves to the cycle, hot side/cold side. If the oceans are pulling heat from the air to cool it they are going to indeed heat up at the same time because of it. Might be sound physics here.


15 posted on 11/05/2018 4:30:29 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: SaxxonWoods

My privilege... Lot more here... :)

https://www.iceagenow.info/


16 posted on 11/05/2018 4:43:46 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: SpaceBar

+1.


17 posted on 11/05/2018 5:47:23 PM PST by carriage_hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: DannyTN

I predict that the weather will change.


18 posted on 11/05/2018 5:48:49 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Openurmind
The idea that the oceans warm when the atmosphere gets colder makes sense. Something has to extract the the heat from the air. Just like A/C, there are two halves to the cycle, hot side/cold side. If the oceans are pulling heat from the air to cool it they are going to indeed heat up at the same time because of it. Might be sound physics here.

All true, but the real problem is that 'science' and the 'media' are trying to find ONE factor to blame for 'climate change'.

There are many factors that influence weather, and therefore 'the climate'. One of the largest factors in the whole equation is 'clouds'. Still, it is a combination of many factors and trying to 'model' and predict what will happen is impossible.

The heat transfer between the oceans and the atmosphere also plays a part, but again it not the sole factor so predicting what it will do is impossible.

19 posted on 11/05/2018 6:05:46 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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"They only came to Diesel after so many were complaining about the lead in regular gasoline. It was quite a fight, but when they finally perfected their time machine, they leaped into the future and kidnapped Herr Diesel. And now you know the REST of the story …"

Ah.., but did they have C134 refrigerants in their SUV's air conditioners?! They destroyed the Ozone layer before there was an Ozone layer.

20 posted on 11/05/2018 6:27:59 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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