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Six Off-Duty Police Officers Were Inside Borderline Bar When Shooting Started
breitbart.com ^ | 11/8/2018 | Joel Pollak

Posted on 11/08/2018 11:12:11 AM PST by rktman

THOUSAND OAKS, California — Six off-duty police officers were inside the Borderline Bar & Grill on Wednesday night when a gunman opened fire on those present.

Twelve people were killed as the gunman, who has been identified as David Ian Long, attacked the bar using a smoke device and a .45-caliber handgun. Many of those present were young people, on hand for “college night.”

Captain Garo Kuredjian, Media Relations Officer for the Ventura County Police Department, told Breitbart News on the scene that there had been three officers from the Oxnard Police Department and three from the Los Angeles Police Department inside the Borderline, all off duty.

They were likely unarmed, he said, though he could not yet confirm that information, nor could he yet say if and how they had assisted victims or confronted the gunman.

“Typically, if you go to a bar, if you’re going to be drinking,” you would leave your gun at home, Kuredjian said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; borderlinebar; california; califshooting; davidianlong; deadperps; lawenforcement; leo; nra; offdutypolice; secondamendment; shooting; thousandoaks
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So, none of them was the designated driver? Uber for the cops? Sad dang situation.
1 posted on 11/08/2018 11:12:11 AM PST by rktman
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““Typically, if you go to a bar, if you’re going to be drinking,” you would leave your gun at home, Kuredjian said.” Unless you’re an fbi agent in Denver trying to do a back flip on the dance floor. Then it’s okay I guess after all-— “FBI”.


2 posted on 11/08/2018 11:13:51 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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I thought all cops off duty still carried.


3 posted on 11/08/2018 11:16:20 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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I thought all cops off duty still carried.

Apparently, not ALL the time.

Regards,

4 posted on 11/08/2018 11:18:18 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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Safest town in the country … security makes people let their guard down.


6 posted on 11/08/2018 11:18:36 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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For once, it seems that someone realized that booze and guns are not a good mix. Except the shooter.


7 posted on 11/08/2018 11:19:33 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Don’t want your weapon to fall out on dance floor.


8 posted on 11/08/2018 11:19:35 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie ("The MSM is the enemy of the American people"...Democrat Pat Caddell)
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I love the scene in “Beverly Hills Cop” when Eddie Murphy gets Taggart and Rosewood to go into the strip club with him. Murphy soon figures out that a robbery is being set and stops the whole thing. He tries to give credit to Taggart and Rosewood, but they admit to their boss that they were just hanging out in a strip club while on duty.


9 posted on 11/08/2018 11:21:04 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: SkyDancer

You can thank lawyers, civilian review boards and liberal politicians for that. If one of these guys got involved of a use of deadly force incident off duty, and had a blood draw after and any alcohol showed up, they’d be fired whether or not the shoot was good.


10 posted on 11/08/2018 11:21:08 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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Must be a great place to pick up chicks.


11 posted on 11/08/2018 11:21:15 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: DuncanWaring

As a retired LEO I find your remark extremely offensive. Please don’t paint all of us with your overly broad paintbrush.


12 posted on 11/08/2018 11:21:15 AM PST by animal172 (Call me simply deplorable.)
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And wound somebody.


13 posted on 11/08/2018 11:22:12 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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"I thought all cops off duty still carried."

I'm sure that many do. But that is not entirely what is in question here. So, I'll cut to the point. Let's say an off duty cop goes into a bar. Since a blood alcohol level of .08 is considered drunk driving, what blood alcohol level would you be comfortable with if an off duty officer is armed and drinking in a bar?

14 posted on 11/08/2018 11:23:07 AM PST by Enterprise
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Those that I hang around do, but then again we don’t go to Bars.


15 posted on 11/08/2018 11:23:14 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: animal172

Probably in reference to the litigious crap LEOs are saddled with these days.


16 posted on 11/08/2018 11:23:45 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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I thought all cops off duty still carried.

My understanding, which is secondhand, was that they are supposed to carry off duty, unless they're going drinking, in which case they're not supposed to carry.

17 posted on 11/08/2018 11:24:53 AM PST by dead (Give everyone in the migrant horde lawnmowers and Mexico will have beautiful grass.)
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... but looking frantically for an exit or hiding under a table.
Hate cops much?
18 posted on 11/08/2018 11:27:23 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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so....it was a revenge hit on cops?


19 posted on 11/08/2018 11:28:57 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: animal172

As a retired LEO I find your remark extremely offensive. Please don’t paint all of us with your overly broad paintbrush.

...

Thank you.


20 posted on 11/08/2018 11:29:27 AM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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