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PETER HITCHENS: Soldiers? No, Brtiain lost 700,000 poets, teachers, inventors...and fathers
DailyMail.com ^ | 11/10/2018 | Peter Hitchens

Posted on 11/10/2018 6:39:56 PM PST by Nextrush

What do you think about during the two minutes silence? I used to think of men at war, and hear in my head the shouts and the clash of arms. Now I see a narrow street of small houses at dusk. A young man in army uniform is embracing his wife and little children in a lighted doorway. He will not return.

I recently learned that, on the first day of commemoration, in 1919, the silence was often far from silent. In many places, when the traffic and the factories stopped, the sound of uncontrollable weeping could be heard in many towns.

Nearly three quarters of a million young men had died far away... they'd had no funerals. For the first time, the bereaved had an opportunity to grieve properly.

This commemoration is above all about the First World War......

I knew. when I first learned about it, that the 1914 war was a chasm between us and another world.

I rather like the look of the world that had been lost-calmer, slower, more solid than ours. I had a feeling we were now a smaller people than we had been.....

...I am so often told that those who fought in 1914 did so for our freedom, that we are far less free as a people, from all kinds of government interference, than we were before the war. It was 1914 that began the era of heavy taxation, surveillance, regulation and general snooping and bureaucracy which now stifle us.

It was also 1914 that swept away the restrained and quiet world of yesterday, and the great, stuffy cumbersome empires of Austria, Germany and Russia, replacing them with the slick murderous modern empires of the Nazis and the Bolsheviks. Was this progress? Give me the Kaiser and the Tsar, any day.....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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On Remembrance Day tomorrow two minutes of silence at 11am in the UK.

Peter Hitchens remembers those who died and the death of civilization he sees coming out of the First World War.

1 posted on 11/10/2018 6:39:56 PM PST by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

Excellent article.


2 posted on 11/10/2018 6:47:46 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: KC_Lion

Ping.


3 posted on 11/10/2018 6:50:05 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Nextrush
I do believe that WWI was the beginning of the end of civilization. A true historic turning point. I don't think Europe has recovered, or will ever recover. On every level --- political, social, physical, emotional, cultural, spiritual --- it was smashed. WWII came roaring on its heels like an opportunistic disease taking down an already wretched, weakened sufferer.

Even the post -WWII recovery was blighted with signs of moral and spiritual death.

And that is still with us, with a vengeance.

4 posted on 11/10/2018 6:56:28 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." - 1 Peter 4:17)
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To: Nextrush

5 posted on 11/10/2018 6:56:49 PM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Nextrush

In the forward of Adolphus Huxley’s book “Brave New World”, Huxley talks about W.W. I. He mentions The Fifth Marquis of Lansdowne, a man he called the last great Conservative. In 1917 he wrote a letter to the Times stating that the time had come to sue for peace.

This had been the way that Europeans Wars had been settled for 100’s of years. The powers would meet, draw up a peace treaty, divide the spoils so to speak and end things. Lansdowne was shunned for writing and making such a proposal and the war dragged on to it’s sorry conclusion with a great loss of life.


6 posted on 11/10/2018 6:58:36 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Bears repeating:

I do believe that WWI was the beginning of the end of civilization. A true historic turning point. I don’t think Europe has recovered, or will ever recover. On every level -— political, social, physical, emotional, cultural, spiritual -— it was smashed. WWII came roaring on its heels like an opportunistic disease taking down an already wretched, weakened sufferer.
Even the post -WWII recovery was blighted with signs of moral and spiritual death.

And that is still with us, with a vengeance.


7 posted on 11/10/2018 7:04:41 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

What else would you expect from a war that killed, on average, nearly ten-thousand men a day, seven days a week, for over four years?

Countless others greivously maimed.

And a year later, Rudyard Kipling wrote “Gods of the Copybook Headings”, predicting with great accuracy the events of the next century.


8 posted on 11/10/2018 7:12:57 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

The number of artists, writers, composers, engineers, visionaries, etc murdered during the Bolshevik years is also staggering. The loss to civilization and culture can never be duplicated.


9 posted on 11/10/2018 7:13:09 PM PST by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: All

His words express quite eloquently, my own thoguhts on the subject.

WW2 was not the most evil or fateful event of the 20th century.

It shouldn’t have happened, indeed, wouldn’t have happened, had it not been for WW1.

WW1 destroyed an orderly world and set in motion all the evils that have bedeviled mankind since - the rising of Communism, Fascism, Naziism, WW2, genocides, The Cold War, expanding statism and its suffocating bureaucracy in the West, the metastising problem of Islamism and the cancer of Cultural Marxism that is eating the West alive.

Two minutes of silence are not enough to remember the best and brightest lights, the favorite sons, of the nations that bled them - and lost their futures as a result.


10 posted on 11/10/2018 7:18:46 PM PST by Simon Foxx
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To: Chainmail

WWI was pure horror. It did not end all war, it led humanity to possibly destroy itself up to this day and beyond. WWI may have destroyed America under Wilsonism.


11 posted on 11/10/2018 7:24:44 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Nextrush

It really comes down to demographics. Losing so many men to death and injury resulted in a big drop in the birth rate. This big drop that rippled though the decades.

In France for example, people had big families before WW1. After the war, the birth rate decreased because there were fewer men, but the birth rate continued to be depressed well after the war because families had fewer children. The decline of the cultural influence of Christianity, overall rising affluence, and birth control are cited as the chief factors for lower bith rates. This became the norm which has persisted to this day.

The Muslim invasion is the final nail.


12 posted on 11/10/2018 7:32:52 PM PST by grumpygresh (Abolish administrative law. It's regressive, medieval and unconstitutional!)
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To: shanover

An excellent book on the origins and first months of W.W. I came out in 2014 called “Catastrophe” by Sir Max Hastings.


13 posted on 11/10/2018 7:35:41 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: grumpygresh
The Muslim invasion is the final nail.

Islam is not the last thing, or the worst thing.

If Islam ever does dominate the world, everything will be fire, death and chaos.

The horror will be so complete that something new, and far more horrible, will be born after gestating within the seething mire.

Something that makes Islam look like a recipe for cupcakes.

14 posted on 11/10/2018 7:43:52 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Nextrush
The English Toffs & Upper Class Public Schoolboys sustained approx 20% of the casualties in World War I...the names of the fallen at Eton College are a humbling sight...

Death of our best and brightest...Daily Express 02/09/14...

15 posted on 11/10/2018 8:00:48 PM PST by Geronimo (God Bless America and President Donald J. Trump...)
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To: Nextrush

It wasn’t only Britain. All of Europe lost her best and brightest, and they have never recovered.


16 posted on 11/10/2018 8:03:05 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I do believe that WWI was the beginning of the end of civilization.

Auschwitz was the final straw.

17 posted on 11/10/2018 8:03:48 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Nextrush
And yet, after WWI and its tectonic aftermath, after the previous century, with its Napoleons, after the century before that, with the French Revolution, and the previous century, with the English Revolution ... after all those ... we are no closer to peace than we have ever been.

Man's eternal state is war. It is war that defines us, war that is the rule, not the exception. The brief moments in between are nothing more than preparation for the next.

18 posted on 11/10/2018 8:15:34 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Nextrush

It will always be “The Great War.”


19 posted on 11/10/2018 8:46:49 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: Nextrush
Give me the Kaiser and the Tsar, any day.....

The Kaiser and the Tsar, both grandsons of Queen Victoria.
20 posted on 11/10/2018 8:53:14 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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