Posted on 11/10/2018 6:52:16 PM PST by Mariner
The unrelenting Camp Fire’s death toll has reached 23, making it the third deadliest wildfire in California history, officials said Saturday night.
This grim milestone came as firefighters focused resources on the fire’s southern edge amid expected high winds that could swing flames toward the city of Oroville.
Butte County Sheriff Kory Honea said 10 bodies were found in the town of Paradise, which was leveled in the firestorm on Friday – seven were found in homes, three were found outdoors. He said four more bodies were recovered in Concow, a few miles east of Magalia – two in their cars, two inside homes.
Honea said in Saturday’s fire update news conference that the city of Oroville itself, population 20,000, is “not in imminent danger” but that homes northeast of the town, closer to Lake Oroville, are threatened.
Throughout Saturday, fire officials and the Butte County Sheriff’s Office ordered more residents to evacuate or be ready to leave as the fire grew largely unchecked at 105,000 acres (164 square miles), Cal Fire said in a 6 p.m. update.
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105,000 acres and 0% containment.
100 miles away in Sacramento the Air Quality Index is >230. We never saw the sun today.
actually winds of 40-50 starting tonight above lake Oroville and 30 MPH in oroville
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Given the way fire moves “not imminent danger” to me would be packing the car in a more orderly manner and planning multiple escape routes.
Where is the New Modernized Air Tanker Fleet that Barack Hussein Obama cancelled? Oh I just read my own question. That Dumbass cancelled them.
America burning to the ground would please the wun to no end.
Here in Rocklin, about 40 miles due south. It looks like it is overcast and the smoke looks like a moderate fog at ground level. And it smells very strongly.
The left is p*ssed that they did not die by gun. A good portion of California is not meant to be inhabited.
We are 170 miles from Chico here on the San Fran Peninsula. It took about seven hours for the smoke to get here yesterday which was unprecedented. No sun today, high humidity combined with the smoke so it was a real murky mess today. Big reddish orange ball at sunset in the hills today.
We found out that a friend’s house in Paradise was spared — the rear deck burned, but not the house! Of course, now they will be surrounded by burned-out forest, not beautiful healthy trees. But they are fortunate to be alive unlike so many others.
McClellan airport in Sacramento has / had 2 x dc10 and 1 747 tanker plus others. Reality is winds are too strong over those hills for them to safely operate.
I’m with you. Too many people think they are in no danger and then find themselves surrounded by fast-moving fire with no way out.
This beast was consuming 70 football fields every minute today.
Agreed. Several years ago a wildfire got close enough we were on “pre evac” warning. We had the vehicles fueled and loaded with clothing, medicines, valuables, backup data drives, firearms/ammo, and heirlooms. The coolers stocked with food & water in the vehicles, cell phones charged. All we needed to do was load pets and people and turn the keys. I had 3 different, diverging routes planned. At one point the primary smoke plume was almost overhead - meaning we were almost directly downwind. Had it shifted a few more degrees we were going - warning from the Sheriff or not. We stayed awake with our own watch on the smoke and on cinder lookout. It was a tense couple of days. In retrospect if that happened again, we’d have gone much earlier in the process. We have a tow behind camper now, we would load up as before and simply go. Plenty of campgrounds, Walmart parking lots, or even truck stops within a days drive. Not worth the risk of getting caught.
Oroville? Isn’t that the dam they almost lost a couple of years ago? The one that tore up the spillway and emergency spillway?
1 + billion spent in repairs, yes, that is the same town. The town itself is not in present danger, it is the areas above Lake Oroville, namely Berry Creek and surrounding environs. They are being evacuated now because it is very likely that within the next few hours, a wind event will take place that will burn it to ash.
Hopefully everyone will actually evacuate in time and not get caught on roads which are far too small to handle that much traffic.
23 identified dead so far, possibly hundreds actually lost.
Yep, that’s the place.
That sounds pretty scary when you see that huge smoke plume over your head.
When I was young and stupid, I wasn’t familiar at all with forest fires and their behavior. I lived in Pinetop, Arizona for about 7 months Fall 1975 to Summer 1976. In early summer, a forest fire erupted not far from my house in Pinetop. I remember watching the trees explode into flames on a ridge a mile from my house. I was mesmerized by the intense power to instantaneously ignite and entire huge ponderosa pine tree top to bottom. Not once did it enter my mind that the fire could come roaring down the mountain and wipe out our neighborhood. So I never once thought “It’s time to get out of Dodge” and save my life. Fortunately, the bombers and fire crews got it under control before it came down the mountain onto us.
Watching the fires in California the past ten years have given me a lot more respect for fire. Here on the flats of the San Fran Peninsula we think we are in a safe location. But you never know.
We are waiting for our evacuation orders. Ash falling tonight. Loading the RV and will finish loading the busvan with our fair goods/business. The other vehicle gets loaded with all the dyes and shirt blanks. Yes, we tie dye. Like bright colors and Grateful Dead and very limited governemnt! Don’t know how we move three vehicles with two people. Will figure it out. Luckily we have time. Unlike the poor folks in Paradise that had minutes to flee. Still a lot of ground before it comes here...all depends on the winds. COming from the NE which is in direct line with us.... Yikes.
“100 miles away in Sacramento the Air Quality Index is >230. We never saw the sun today. “
Ditto down here in Danville. Actually we were in Napa today and the air there for some reason was a lot clearer that what we have here at home. BAAQMD said to expect an AQI of 159 in Napa. Had to do some outside work there, and had to wear a mask all day.
Yeah, one of the things I used to justify staying (right, wrong, or just plain stupid) was the notion that there was about a quarter mile of suburban neighborhood between my place and the treeline. So if it broke out of the treeline, crossed a half mile of prairie grass then it would hit the neighborhood. Sure the houses would burn, but all those green, well-watered lawns were going to slow it down some - ie. time enough for us to jump in vehicles and leave. As I said, not sure I’d take that same risk again. Getting more cautious (in some ways, less in others) every year.
Don’t take any chances.
Don’t take any chances.
Amen!
Prayers up!
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