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After 17 years, many Afghans blame US for unending war
AP ^ | 11/13/2018 | KATHY GANNON

Posted on 11/13/2018 12:09:58 AM PST by McGruff

When U.S. forces and their Afghan allies rode into Kabul in November 2001 they were greeted as liberators. But after 17 years of war, the Taliban have retaken half the country, security is worse than it’s ever been, and many Afghans place the blame squarely on the Americans.

The United States has lost more than 2,400 soldiers in its longest war, and has spent more than $900 billion on everything from military operations to the construction of roads, bridges and power plants. Three U.S. presidents have pledged to bring peace to Afghanistan, either by adding or withdrawing troops, by engaging the Taliban or shunning them. Last year, the U.S. dropped the “mother of all bombs” on a cave complex.

None of it has worked. After years of frustration, Afghanistan is rife with conspiracy theories, including the idea that Americans didn’t stumble into a forever war, but planned one all along.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; americanquagmire; trumpwinsagain; wot
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I'm reluctant to believe anything 'reported' by AP but this is worth considering.
1 posted on 11/13/2018 12:09:58 AM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Obama unnecessarily prolonged it.


2 posted on 11/13/2018 12:13:20 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: McGruff

After 8 years of Obama suddenly the Afghan war is an issue again.


3 posted on 11/13/2018 12:14:00 AM PST by jarwulf
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To: McGruff

I’m reluctant to care what the Afghans think.


4 posted on 11/13/2018 12:23:49 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: McGruff

Lets be kinda honest...the ‘17 year’ thing mentioned....is not when the real war started. You need to go back to 1979 when the Russians invaded and created the environment rich in thug-ism. You can go back to the 1960s and 1970s to see a lot going on....western capital showing up in Kabul...and even some tourism starting to show up. Next year will be forty freaking years of an unending war. They are right to be frustrated, but there’s a ton of blame to throw around.


5 posted on 11/13/2018 12:38:22 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Darksheare

Bush unnecessarily prolonged it. We should have been gone within 2 years, and never gotten into the so-called nation-build phase. Punitive expedition and out.


6 posted on 11/13/2018 12:49:07 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: McGruff

The problem is that we’re fighting this the American way. If we had fought this the Afghan way, the war would have been over a couple of years after 9/11. Of course, a few million Afghans (with a 1 to 10 or lower Taliban to Taliban civilian supporter ratio) would also be lying in mass graves. Unfortunately, to defeat an enemy that has been defeated conventionally, but won’t surrender, you cannot apply the Geneva Conventions to them.

The problem is not that we can’t defeat them, but that we won’t take measures that have worked in the past, continue to work in the present, but are now interpreted as cruelty for the sake of cruelty. They are not. We have devoted hundreds of billions of dollars towards fighting the Taliban our way. It can’t be done at a reasonable cost in American and friendly Afghan lives, never mind money. The Taliban and their civilian supporters must be slaughtered root and branch.


7 posted on 11/13/2018 12:54:08 AM PST by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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To: pepsionice

You are correct: Back in the 60’s and until 1978, Afghanistan was a poor country, but civilized for the most part, and moving generally forward. But, the Socialists / Communists were plotting, overthrew the Gov’t, and it all went to hell from there on out.


8 posted on 11/13/2018 1:06:44 AM PST by Paul R.
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To: Zhang Fei

The hard truth, isn’t it...


9 posted on 11/13/2018 1:10:28 AM PST by Paul R.
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To: Darksheare

IIRC Bush wanted to leave after Bora Bora but the Brits convinced him to do some National Building...


10 posted on 11/13/2018 1:22:23 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: McGruff

Fine, let’s get out.


11 posted on 11/13/2018 1:32:00 AM PST by zanarchist
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To: McGruff
The problem is Islam. To guarantee entrance to heaven they have to fight somebody. We are defending a Constitution that is explicitly Islamic. That alone should have been our excuse to leave. Never mind the Soviets , how long did the British waste their blood and treasure there?
12 posted on 11/13/2018 1:37:06 AM PST by Nateman (If the left is not screaming, you are doing it wrong.)
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To: jarwulf

After 17 years of occupation it should be

What American ‘ freedoms” are our troops dying for on Afghanistan’s plains?

We can plan a mission to Mars but we cant eradicate the poppy fields? The labs the Taliban and ISIS are competing to control? Making the Taliban look like the lesser of evils.

Count the Anericans dying from heroin as collateral damage of a failure of honesty about our strategic policies


13 posted on 11/13/2018 1:46:52 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: McGruff

Good.


14 posted on 11/13/2018 2:05:32 AM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: ifinnegan

+1


15 posted on 11/13/2018 2:23:56 AM PST by sauropod (Yield to sin, and experience chastening and sorrow; yield to God, and experience joy and blessing.)
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To: wastoute

Blair/Brown, the gift that keeps on giving... (Tora Bora, btw.)


16 posted on 11/13/2018 2:27:09 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Moltke

Yeah. Thanks.


17 posted on 11/13/2018 2:29:17 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: McGruff

Of course. Many if not most Afghans or more importantly the muslims who live in Afghanistan, are the enemy of the United States and did not mind bin laden attacking us.

They would prefer peace on their soil while living sharia law and war on our soil.

Of course, we are making the war against islam an away game as much as we can.

JoMa


18 posted on 11/13/2018 2:43:41 AM PST by joma89
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To: McGruff

We are not in Afghanistan as benevolent heros, we are there because the country is full of rare minerals.


19 posted on 11/13/2018 2:51:36 AM PST by Joe Boucher (Criminals at F.B.I., Justice Dept, I.R.S and No one taken out in cuffs? Federal gub mint is crappola)
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To: McGruff

But girls can go to school.

That’s worth American treasure.


20 posted on 11/13/2018 2:54:17 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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