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Trump suggests France would have been defeated without U.S.
The Columbian ^ | November 13, 2018 | Darlene Superville, The Associated Press

Posted on 11/13/2018 10:53:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Donald Trump escalated his verbal assaults against France on Tuesday, suggesting that America’s stalwart European ally would have been vanquished in both world wars if not for the military firepower provided by the United States.

Trump tweeted about a suggestion by French President Emmanuel Macron that Europe build up its militaries because the continent can no longer depend on the U.S. for defense. Macron had also said Europe needs to protect itself against cyberthreats from China, Russia and the U.S.

Macron’s comments were inaccurately reported and Trump continues to misrepresent them, seemingly for political hay. The French leader’s office said Trump had lumped together Macron’s remarks on protecting against cyber-threats and “interference in our democracies” from “China, Russia and even the United States” with Macron’s later statement on military defense....

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: france; macron; trump; ww2
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Are there any credible historians that would argue with him?
1 posted on 11/13/2018 10:53:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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The Nazis may very well have been extracted from France, but it would have been the Soviets that did it.


2 posted on 11/13/2018 10:53:55 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Stuck a feather in his cap and called it Macaroni
3 posted on 11/13/2018 10:54:06 AM PST by Jolla
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wait. france was defeated. we got it back for the ungratefule b*stards.
4 posted on 11/13/2018 10:54:11 AM PST by JohnBrowdie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

France was already defeated in WWII.


5 posted on 11/13/2018 10:54:34 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: JohnBrowdie

wait. france was defeated. we got it back for the ungratefule b*stards.

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Ditto. The pig media is spinning this as if there’s some question.


6 posted on 11/13/2018 10:55:06 AM PST by Pravious
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Suggests???

How about Trump Reminds France they would have been defeated without US


7 posted on 11/13/2018 10:55:22 AM PST by gubamyster
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8 posted on 11/13/2018 10:55:59 AM PST by kabar
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Completely true. And what with france’s Incessant insults to America and anti- semitism, it isn’t worth saving a third time


9 posted on 11/13/2018 10:56:28 AM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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No_Fucning_French_To
10 posted on 11/13/2018 10:56:38 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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The Nazis may very well have been extracted from France, but it would have been the Soviets that did it.


I agree. However, if they had not had to worry about the US involvement, it is quite possible they would have kicked Stalin’s butt even after their original failure.
Hitler was spread too thin and we were the reason for it. Take away the US and you take away D-Day. And Africa may have gone a bit differently as well. Not to mention Italy.


11 posted on 11/13/2018 10:56:48 AM PST by cuban leaf
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Trump is “wrong”.

France was already defeated before the U.S. rescued them from becoming a permanent part of Germany.


12 posted on 11/13/2018 10:56:49 AM PST by adorno
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“America’s stalwart European ally”

LOL, when its suits them.


13 posted on 11/13/2018 10:57:20 AM PST by headstamp 2
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France - Always there when they need us.


14 posted on 11/13/2018 10:57:54 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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THEY WERE DEFEATED!

You aren’t LIBERATED, if you had not already been defeated...


15 posted on 11/13/2018 10:58:39 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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16 posted on 11/13/2018 10:59:46 AM PST by SparkyBass
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Not really. The war on the Eastern Front had already turned bad for the Germans by the time Pearl Harbor hit. Germany never had any chance of prevailing in Russia save for one long shot. That would be a Thrust straight for Moscow with no distractions. But even then, realistically the fall of Moscow would not have change the final outcome. Napoleon made the mistake of thinking seizing the capital meant he got the whole country.


17 posted on 11/13/2018 10:59:55 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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"The Nazis may very well have been extracted from France, but it would have been the Soviets that did it."

And then they'd be speaking Russian.

18 posted on 11/13/2018 11:01:01 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: dfwgator

Aren’t we talking here about WWI?


19 posted on 11/13/2018 11:01:08 AM PST by Reily
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Suggests? Implying it’s up for debate. I hate the media.


20 posted on 11/13/2018 11:01:28 AM PST by E Pluribus Bellum
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