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What's Wrong With Florida Elections?
Townhall.com ^ | November 13, 2018 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 11/13/2018 3:05:10 PM PST by Kaslin

MIAMI -- Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) had the best line when it comes to the latest Florida election in which contests for governor and the U.S. Senate are still undecided.

Rubio tweeted: "Bay County was hit by a Cat 4 Hurricane just 4 weeks ago, yet managed to count votes & submit timely results. Yet over 41 hours after polls closed #Broward elections office is still counting votes?"

With lawyers descending on the state in what looks to some like a replay of the 2000 "hanging chad" presidential election, an automatic recount has been triggered for both contests.

President Trump and other Republicans are crying foul and accusing Democrats of trying to "steal" the election. Given the history of voter fraud in this country and the heavily Democratic makeup of Broward and Palm Beach counties, their suspicions may be justified.

Vote-stealing isn't new. After the initial vote count in the 1948 Texas Senate race, which saw Lyndon Johnson losing to his opponent Coke Stevenson by 20,000 votes, previously "unreported precincts" and other "adjustments" were made in the vote totals. Johnson came out the winner by a mere 87 votes, earning him the derisive title "Landslide Lyndon."

In the 1960 presidential race, which saw the tightest popular vote margin since Grover Cleveland defeated James Blaine in 1884 by just 23,000 votes, Republicans claimed Richard Nixon was robbed. As Politico reported in a 2016 article, "In Illinois, (John F. Kennedy) won by just 8,800 votes, largely due to margins in Chicago, where Mayor Richard Daley -- a Kennedy stalwart -- tightly controlled the Cook County organization. In Texas, home of his running mate, Lyndon Johnson, the Kennedy-Johnson ticket won by a margin of 46,000. Had Nixon carried both states, he would have won the Electoral College, 270 to 252."

In the 2008 Minnesota Senate race between Republican incumbent Norm Coleman and Democrat Al Franken, Coleman won the election by the narrowest of margins. According to CNN, "The initial count from the November 4 election put Coleman, a first-term senator, 215 votes ahead of Franken." The slim margin triggered an automatic recount. The canvassing board finally determined that Franken "won by 225 votes."

After Franken was sworn in, a conservative group called Minnesota Majority began investigating claims of voter fraud. The group found 1,099 felons, all of them ineligible, had voted. As John Fund and Hans von Spakovsky note in their book "Who's Counting?: How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk," most felons favor Democrats when they can vote.

Which brings us back to Florida. With vote margins in the races for governor and Senate so tight, Republicans are worried that history will repeat itself.

Brenda Snipes, the supervisor of Elections in Broward County, has held her job for 15 years. Her history, to put it charitably, has been checkered. Last May, a judge ruled that Snipes violated federal and state election laws when she destroyed ballots in the 2016 congressional race in which Tim Canova lost a primary contest to incumbent Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

The recount process will be anything but pleasant. Snipes and others who are responsible for this dysfunctional, incompetent and possibly criminal behavior should be replaced, the sooner the better for Florida and for the country.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2018midterms; blackpeople; broward; election; fl; florida; snipes; votefraud
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1 posted on 11/13/2018 3:05:10 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It takes time to manufacture 10s of 1000s of votes - that is why many states always have the same, usual precincts and counties delay turning in the totals because they have to wait to find out how many votes they need to create, and then create them.


2 posted on 11/13/2018 3:09:20 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Kaslin

Latest AP count has Dems at 45 and Reps at 51 and 2 more Reps leading. This takes in account Arizona losing already. Also the 2 indeps winning. I know Scott is leading in Florida but don’t know who is the other Rep that is leading. Could someone point out to me who is the other Rep Senator who is leading?


3 posted on 11/13/2018 3:09:58 PM PST by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: Kaslin

Stall, stall, stall... it takes time to fill out blank provisional ballots and mix them in the stacks before the machines recount.


4 posted on 11/13/2018 3:12:07 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Evil Slayer

It will be 47 to 53 when all is said and done.

3R pickups: Indiana; Missouri; North Dakota
2D pickups: Arizona; Nevada

2 remain undecided: Florida; Mississippi Special
R’s will win both of those.


5 posted on 11/13/2018 3:18:33 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Evil Slayer

Could they be referring to Mississippi and the run-off election in December?


6 posted on 11/13/2018 3:19:46 PM PST by PackersFan
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To: rigelkentaurus

Wonder how much Wasserman Schultz paid her to make sure she won. Sick.


7 posted on 11/13/2018 3:21:03 PM PST by dandiegirl (BO)
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To: Repeal The 17th; PackersFan

Thanks!!!!!!


8 posted on 11/13/2018 3:25:17 PM PST by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: Kaslin

What is wrong?

Everything. The problems are too numerous to mention.


9 posted on 11/13/2018 3:25:28 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Evil Slayer
I don't think Senator Marco Rubio was up for reelection. Governor Rick Scott is running against the rat senator Bill Nelson.

Both Ron DeSantis (Republican) and Demonrat Andrew Gillium are running for Governor.

10 posted on 11/13/2018 3:27:58 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Leftist Jews and BLACKS!!


11 posted on 11/13/2018 3:32:49 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin
This is where I got the AP update
12 posted on 11/13/2018 3:34:39 PM PST by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: Kaslin

This seems to be part of a larger and very corrupt and rotten system that protects a lot of people up to ones like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and a lot of other intertwined interests of wealth and power. I recall following the tragic events in Broward in February, Brit Hume advising parents of the youngsters who were injured or killed in that young man’s horrible act that if they wanted to take action against Broward County and get results, that the legal counsel they should get certainly should have no Democratic connections for sure, as if they did, their main job would involve protecting that system that ultimately serves the aforementioned names, among others.

You almost feel like Bill Kurtis in the old A&E series “Investigative Reports” when learning and thinking about voter fraud, corrupt and incompetent law enforcement (Sheriff Israel), the equally crooked and incompetent public schools administration there (Robert Runcie), and many other very unfortunate things that seem to take place in that area frequently.


13 posted on 11/13/2018 3:40:15 PM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: Kaslin

Blatant, in-your-face, systemic corruption— This is political gangsterism.


14 posted on 11/13/2018 3:54:24 PM PST by Lexington Green (Sun Tzu Trumps Saul Alinsky)
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To: Kaslin

I helped with elections from 1996 until I moved to a new area a couple of years ago. ALL we did was TRY to keep the vote honest and clean. NO MATTER WHO WON! WE tried to make sure no one who voted was actually dead, etc. We didn’t fake any votes. I wish all precincts were run as honestly and cleanly as the ones run by my mentor! they sure SHOULD BE!


15 posted on 11/13/2018 4:09:36 PM PST by buffyt (Live is fragile, handle with PRAYER!)
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To: OttawaFreeper

You are RIGHT! They protect the corrupt dishonest Clintons and Obama!


16 posted on 11/13/2018 4:11:28 PM PST by buffyt (Live is fragile, handle with PRAYER!)
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To: Kaslin

Sometimes I like to read at night before bed. You know...light, feel good stuff.

Florida has an open records law whereby the email and text messages of public officials such as....Ms. Brenda Snipes are to be made available to the public upon request.

Thats exactly the kind of reading material that could give me a great nights sleep.


17 posted on 11/13/2018 4:13:53 PM PST by Captain7seas (UNexit. Make America Great Again!)
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To: rigelkentaurus

What is wrong in a nutshell is allowing each Election’s official in the counties to design their own ballot.

They state needs to determine a standard ballot with Federal, State, then local elections in that order and not let people like Snipes design on purpose a complicated ballot designed for cheating and misdirection.


18 posted on 11/13/2018 4:23:49 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Kaslin

DemocRats in the woodwork.


19 posted on 11/13/2018 4:35:36 PM PST by ZULU (Jeff Sessions should be tried for sedition.)
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To: Kaslin

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/28/recounts-almost-never-work-except-these-three/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.1327f50099f0


20 posted on 11/13/2018 5:17:48 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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