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Alabama police suggest black man killed by officer shouldn't have held his gun
AP NBC ^ | 11 26 2018 | AP

Posted on 11/26/2018 9:35:23 AM PST by yesthatjallen

Edited on 11/26/2018 11:17:59 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Police in Alabama promised transparency Monday after a weekend of protests in response to an officer fatally shooting a black man who pulled out his legally permitted weapon following gunfire at a shopping mall.

Hoover Police initially described the officer as "heroic" for bringing down Emantic "EJ" Bradford Jr. after two people were wounded at the Riverchase Galleria mall outside Birmingham Thanksgiving night. Then they retracted the statement, saying it's "unlikely" Bradford was involved.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; blackmales; guns; leo; police
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1 posted on 11/26/2018 9:35:23 AM PST by yesthatjallen
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"We can say with certainty Mr. Bradford brandished a gun during the seconds following the gunshots"

Wonder what "brandished" means in this context? Was he pointing it forward in the shooting position or would this include holding it in the ready position with the muzzle pointing at the ground?

2 posted on 11/26/2018 9:42:48 AM PST by circlecity
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To: yesthatjallen
Only draw your weapon if you are in position to engage the threat.

Stow your weapon when the threat is gone.

Stow your weapon when LEOs arrive, or risk being mistaken for the threat.

3 posted on 11/26/2018 9:43:20 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: yesthatjallen

You would think tons of mall video exist, and the actual shooter would be identified by this point and the cops on the trail. Yet, none of that seems to be happening. In this case, people are asking questions and the police response is marginal.


4 posted on 11/26/2018 9:43:32 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: yesthatjallen

“21-year-old Army veteran”

As I understand the guy did not make it through AIT before he was released. That does not qualify as an Army Veteran to me.


5 posted on 11/26/2018 9:43:43 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: yesthatjallen
Release of any video will be done as ALEA deems appropriate during the investigation.

Umm,,, why not release it now? Afraid it might show a trigger happy cop trying to be a hero? Still need time to come up with a plausible explanation?

6 posted on 11/26/2018 9:44:37 AM PST by Bitman
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To: yesthatjallen

Ruh Roh, the police screwed up bad it would seem


7 posted on 11/26/2018 9:46:46 AM PST by HangnJudge
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To: yesthatjallen

Well color me confused... We had friends in the mall when this went down, so I have been following here locally. The initial report was an 18 year old and a 21 year old got into an altercation and the instigator (21 year old) was shot by a “good guy with a gun” but not before an innocent 12 year old was also hit. Then it was changed from “good guy with a gun” to mall security. What didn’t change was the age of the instigator (21) and his name (this guy).


8 posted on 11/26/2018 9:49:46 AM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

You don’t know why he was released early. Maybe he was injured in an accident. He chose to enter and there is no evidence that his discharge was questionable.

Smarten up.


9 posted on 11/26/2018 9:50:37 AM PST by Az Joe (I AM TRUMP!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Too many details missing from this story. Something is just not adding up.


10 posted on 11/26/2018 9:52:54 AM PST by thirdgradeteacher
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To: yesthatjallen

This is a sad situation. It has been a topic of debate here at FR for years.

“If you are carrying and a situation breaks out, should you engage?”

Clearly for EJ, the answer was no.


11 posted on 11/26/2018 9:54:08 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: G Larry
Get yourself and your people to safety and let the rest die at the hands of the gunman.

It's what the Left wants anyway.

12 posted on 11/26/2018 9:54:29 AM PST by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: yesthatjallen

The best term to describe a black man who concealed carries is “suicidal”.


13 posted on 11/26/2018 9:54:56 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: G Larry; Responsibility2nd

"...stow your weapon..."


Exactly. My plan is to remain behind concealment and cover in an active shooter situation should I ever encounter one.
Even if I have to remain in hiding for MANY HOURS until completely and absolutely certain of the “all clear” signal.


14 posted on 11/26/2018 10:01:39 AM PST by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Perhaps it may be of some help to speculate on some rumors about the mall cop’s background as well?


15 posted on 11/26/2018 10:05:16 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: circlecity

“We can say with certainty Mr. Bradford brandished a gun during the seconds following the gunshots”

...

Does this mean the police and the officer that shot Bradford was on scene within seconds, or do they mean 900 seconds?


16 posted on 11/26/2018 10:08:14 AM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: circlecity
Probably too much adrenaline to realize he could look like a bad guy to responders...hard to fault them or him....been around long enough to know not to have a weapon in-hand when cops are responding to a shooting.

Tragic set of circumstances.

17 posted on 11/26/2018 10:08:18 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: yesthatjallen

I saw a series of photos of the recently deceased this weekend with many showing his fingers doing gang signs. Now I see the same photos cropped at the elbows.


18 posted on 11/26/2018 10:15:46 AM PST by printhead (I need a new tagline. Happy days are here again.)
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To: G Larry

quote for truth


19 posted on 11/26/2018 10:21:34 AM PST by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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To: G Larry

How much time between the arrival of leos and the shooting? Was there any command to drop the weapon?


20 posted on 11/26/2018 10:22:47 AM PST by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!"to)
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