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Why the “Good Guy with a Gun” Argument Doesn’t Work With Leftists
Townhall.com ^ | November 27, 2018 | Karen Kataline

Posted on 11/27/2018 10:51:37 AM PST by Kaslin

As we are enjoying our Thanksgiving leftovers, some of us are thinking about the next set of issues over which the Left will spontaneously combust. Funny how it’s often timed perfectly for the next political fight and they are relatively quiet until people start paying attention after the New Year.

When Democrats gain control of the house in January, they will be fighting harder than ever to convince us that law-abiding citizens shouldn’t be trusted to have guns to defend themselves. Not long ago, they balked bitterly at the accusation that their real goal was to repeal the Second Amendment. Now, many have finally started to admit that this is precisely what they had in mind all along. Good for them. Better for us. They are easier to beat when they tell the truth. Unfortunately, that’s never very often.

Conservatives have an excellent argument in favor of the Second Amendment by proclaiming that “it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun.” Unfortunately, it makes no sense to Leftists and it’s instructive to examine why.

The Left has been working overtime to erase the difference between good guys and bad guys. To them, we are all just as capable of being Charles Manson as we are Mother Theresa. They claim that individual choice and personal responsibility has nothing to do with who is good and who is evil. Maybe that’s why they can always be counted upon to come to the defense of ruthless, hardened criminals. They have for decades perpetuated the idea that criminals are victims. Now, they've moved on to painting law-abiding citizens are criminals. This speeds us on the road to being all the same. Think of it as the redistribution of personal responsibility.

If you are white, male, Christian, or God-forbid, a Republican, you are already guilty without having done anything at all. If you dare to own a gun, you are de facto guilty. It doesn’t matter what choices you make. The Left does not consider this to be prejudice as long as the right people are pre-judged. They argue that they can perfect the world and our behavior by creating a “correct” society which they will define for us. We are merely spokes in their socialist utopian wheel.

Whether it’s about women, guns, taxes, or trade, positions on the Left are built on the same collectivist bigotry. No one ever seems to hold them accountable for not counting themselves among the groups into which they have categorized everyone else. That’s how Michael Moore is able to rail about stupid white men even though he is one. That level of arrogance is reserved only for the power elite.

This crazy-making, upside down thinking makes most conservatives either shake their heads or giggle. “How can anybody actually believe that?” Possibly for the same reasons the Left believes that all women should be believed because they are women; that you can “identify” as anything you want but you shouldn’t engage in "cultural appropriation,” and that eating Chicken Cacciatore constitutes a holocaust on your plate.

Still, the Left is losing some of their mojo. It’s tough to try to convince people that they shouldn’t be able to defend themselves when Leftist politicians refuse to condemn the bullying and threatening behavior of their own base. In some cases, they have actually incited that behavior.

It is harder than ever to convince somebody like Tucker Carlson’s wife to give up her right to defend herself since she was recently visited at her home by “Anti-Fascist” Fascists chanting “We know where you sleep”. People like this especially love the idea of repealing the Second Amendment. Criminals always like it better when the people they’re attacking can’t fight back.

So what sort of Second Amendment argument could work with Leftists? I suggest we do a little “cultural appropriation” of our own. Let’s resurrect some of the trends that liberals themselves made famous in the sixties. I don’t think they’ll mind, since they aren’t using them anymore.

Liberals used to be champions of free speech. They made it cool to be a non-conformist and to “do your own thing.” They put individualism in fashion even though they all dressed and spoke alike!

Before we can make the argument that "a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun," our opponents will have to recognize that there are indeed good guys and bad guys. Individual choices and personal accountability is what makes much of the difference between them.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guns; nra; secondamendment; theleft
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1 posted on 11/27/2018 10:51:37 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

“If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?” ~ Frederic Bastiat

To ban guns because criminals use them is to tell the law abiding that their rights and liberties depend not on their own conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless.


2 posted on 11/27/2018 10:55:11 AM PST by sourcery (Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: Kaslin

The Left just has a fundamental problem with “evil”. They don’t think it exists. This is a big reason they hate Christianity, since Christianity is very big on the concept of “right and wrong”. The Left feels threatened by such things. Just yesterday there was a thread here about a journalist who had a problem with JRR Tolkien and his depiction of Orcs as “evil”. For the journalist, this was just pure racism and totally unPC. Orcs are not “evil”, they are just misunderstood.

If there is no “evil” then no one needs a gun. Simple, eh?


3 posted on 11/27/2018 10:56:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Kaslin

There is no guarantee a good guy with a gun can save the day, but there is an absolute guarantee a bad guy with a gun will have his way without one.


4 posted on 11/27/2018 10:57:09 AM PST by umgud (Now)
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To: Kaslin

Because they’re more smarter than us?


5 posted on 11/27/2018 10:57:16 AM PST by rktman ( #My2nd! Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH)
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To: Kaslin

People that think that being defenseless is being safe are not worth arguing with. I often wonder why they would choose to be defenseless, yet they wear a seat-belt in their car... that makes no sense to me.


6 posted on 11/27/2018 11:00:14 AM PST by GregoTX
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To: Kaslin
Facts and Logic have no place in an emotional, fascist debate.

Don't waste time arguing, just tell them to get lost.

7 posted on 11/27/2018 11:02:32 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Kaslin

Another reason for 2A is to protect against tyranny.

Few, if any, point out that virtually every country in history that enslaved their people first disarmed them.

The ability to protect you and yours is a legitimate argument, but loss of liberty should be mighty compelling as well.


8 posted on 11/27/2018 11:03:38 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: GregoTX

And have security systems at home and work (those that do work)

Or move to “safer” neighborhoods

Or enroll their brats in “safer” skools

Or shop at “safer” businesses/malls


9 posted on 11/27/2018 11:05:47 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Mods/Indies/Dems/Non-voters" JOBS or MOBS? Are CRAZY DIMS REALLY who you want BACK in POWER?)
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To: Kaslin

There is only one thing that works with zombies.


10 posted on 11/27/2018 11:09:26 AM PST by The Toll
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To: Kaslin

bkmk


11 posted on 11/27/2018 11:09:50 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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From the article:... that you can “identify” as anything you want but you shouldn’t engage in "cultural appropriation” ...

This, I think, is the reason that Trump has zeroed in on Liawatha. The libs can't support her cultural appropriation for fear of losing the support of Native Americans. At the same time the libs can't condemn her for fear of offending all those who "identify" as women, witches, or frogs.

12 posted on 11/27/2018 11:10:16 AM PST by William Tell
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Every tyrant wants disarmed subjects.


13 posted on 11/27/2018 11:10:33 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: MichaelCorleone
Another reason for 2A is to protect against tyranny.

To subject society to the false proposition that there are no "bad guys" or "good guys" IS tyranny.

14 posted on 11/27/2018 11:10:54 AM PST by RatRipper (The Democrat Party is the party of liars, swindlers, cheats and unbridled immorality.)
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To: Kaslin

Study: Concealed carry firearms owners have a 94% success rate stopping potential mass shooters

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3708768/posts

Of course, the Leftists could care less since this does not line up with their ultimate goal of disarming the law abiding populace (criminals will always have a way to get guns).


15 posted on 11/27/2018 11:12:33 AM PST by Qiviut (McCain & Obama's Legacy in two words: DONALD TRUMP!)
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To: Kaslin

It is easy. You don’t need to read the long winded article to find the answer.

Democrats/leftists/totalitarians want no possible resistance to their planned tyranny. A disarmed populace is a helpless populace. Therefore their number one priority is disarming the law abiding. Democrats couldn’t care less about crime, mass murders (except for their press arm the MSM to exploit them) your safety, my safety etc. they just want you to be unable to resist them and their beloved thugs in blue.


16 posted on 11/27/2018 11:14:45 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

You call an article with 12 short paragraphs long?


17 posted on 11/27/2018 11:22:46 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: G Larry

Excellentpoint.


18 posted on 11/27/2018 11:24:28 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
They claim that individual choice and personal responsibility has nothing to do with who is good and who is evil.

They just want a pre-excuse in place, in case they want to do something evil, themselves.

19 posted on 11/27/2018 11:27:45 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Kaslin

It's classic Freudian projection. Democrats know that democrats are evil. They know they should not be allowed to carry firearms. They know the world should be protected from them. And through Freudian projection, they assume we are just like them.


20 posted on 11/27/2018 11:30:14 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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