Skip to comments.Progressive lawmakers call for climate change revolution
Posted on 12/04/2018 9:16:52 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez emphasized need to transform our energy system but did not discuss how to pursue it.
A star-studded progressive town hall on climate change drew thousands of viewers online and hundreds in person - but offered little insight into how the US left might overcome Republican opposition and lay the groundwork to limit rising temperatures.
The Vermont senator Bernie Sanders, a potential 2020 presidential candidate, and Democratic socialist congresswoman-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who campaigned on a Green New Deal, elicited cheers with promises of an economic boom from massive investment in renewable power.
What we are trying to do tonight is be part of the revolution in terms of the need to transform our energy system away from fossil fuels and to not only save the planet but create millions of good-paying jobs in the process, Sanders said.
Ocasio-Cortez said the climate movement was going to be the Great Society, the moonshot, the civil rights movement of our generation.
Speakers framed the conversation around work that could begin in 2020, if Democrats take back the Senate and the White House. But scientists say the world must have plans in place soon to avoid the worst of a heating Earth.
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They need to be put in a nice place, where they can live out their delusional dreams without harming the rest of us.
We all do know that when (not if) temperatures fall, the climateers will claim credit and say we need to do more by raising taxes for them to spend...
The thing that bothers me is the more they have a criminal background and the more radical they are, the more appealing they are to Democrats...especially young ones. It seems to me if you look at the history of passed Republics, it is always the young folks that cause their demise.
“...emphasized need to transform our energy system but did not discuss how to pursue it.”
This is all you need to read.
It’s not about progress (IE improvement, not progressivism) or availability of better energy. It’s only about punishing, taxing, or removing the economically competitive energy sources that drive higher standards of living.
Ahem, y’all see what’s going down in France? Just sayin ...
The 2020 RAT ticket: Bernie and the Occasional Cortex. (Kinda sounds like a 60s heavy metal band.)
When I taught a university Intro Econ class, I used to tell my students I could end pollution overnight. When they asked how, I said that, if I were in a position of power, I would outlaw the use of cars, buses, trucks, close all factories down, shut down all power plants, and outlaw burning of any kind. When they complained that people would starve to death under those restrictions, I’d reply: “Letting people survive was not in the plans you gave me.” We then discussed economic tradeoffs and how one goal often has externalities that impact other aspects of living. Today’s Snowflakes don’t grasp the concept of externalities or the consequences of what they’re saying.
That's a very good point. If Frenchies aren't buying this stuff then who will?
Raise fuel taxes (carbon taxes) to excess and create a revolution which is burning the urban areas down in protest.
I wonder if all those fires are helping to lower global temperatures? /sarc/
These two idiots (and others like them) don't see the failure of their ideology (socialism in Venezuela and communism in Cuba) around the world and hesitate at all.
They want to go full steam ahead towards the cliffs of failure and run the wealthiest and most powerful nation on earth into the shit-canner.
There's a winning strategy for you. Macaroni seems to have paused and lifted his excessive carbon tax for six months but only because he want the riots to stop, not because he has changed his mind on his climate change scam.
China has twice the tonnage of carbon emissions and four times the emission rate than the US.
China is doing relatively nothing to curb emissions.
To all carbon taxers: learn Chinese and go talk to them first.
The left are engaged in a war with civilization where the stated villain is the weather, but it’s actually individual freedom and economic activity outside the reach of the greedy hands of klepto-governments.
This why they are panicking:
Trump’s pick for EPA already rolling back climate change protections
CNN ^ | December 4, 2018 | By Scott Bronstein, Drew Griffin and Collette Richards
Posted on 12/4/2018, 9:27:17 AM by Oldeconomybuyer
Andrew Wheeler, the former coal lobbyist who is now acting administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, was a “driving force” behind the agenda of Sen. James Inhofe, who called climate change a “hoax,” according to people familiar with Wheeler’s work for the senator.
President Donald Trump has said he intends to nominate Wheeler as the head of the EPA, and in the past five months as acting administrator, Wheeler has moved aggressively to roll back key environmental regulations, prompting critics and environmentalists to say he is fast confirming their worst fears for the agency’s future.
Wheeler moved to the EPA’S top slot in July after then-Administrator Scott Pruitt was forced to resign amid numerous investigations.
Like his former boss, Wheeler is seen to be focused on reversing regulations that protect the nation’s air and water and instead promoting the wishes of the industries impacted by those regulations. Critics fear that Wheeler, who works quietly behind the scenes and knows how to get things done in Washington, is more dangerous to the nation’s health than the scandal-plagued Pruitt ever was.
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Without a backstory, that photo looks like an airliner crashed in Paris.
As usual they forget these millions of good paying jobs will have wage earners paying outrageous utility costs to pay those salaries. But, i'm sure she who has an occasional neuron firing in her cortex would just decry this in her usual answer. Well people will just pay it.
“They need to be put in a nice place,...”
Since they have such an obsessive fear of heat, I propose a prison camp in Antartica.
“lay the groundwork to limit rising temperatures. “
My wife has a fever, can they help?
Yeah. Transform it right back to the Stone Age. The one thing these enviro-types don't get is that there are several billion people on this planet. The most efficient way to keep them alive -- warm in the winter and cooking their food -- is with what we have now -- oil, natural gas, coal and nuclear. If we get rid of them, we will be back to burning wood, which would be a huge environmental disaster. And nothing else at this point would efficiently take care of the energy needs of the world's population. There is no "revolution". The revolution is a fantasy that would lead to disaster.
France is having a climate change revolution, just not the kind hoped for by the Bernie types.
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