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Despots are pushing the Arab world to become more secular
The Economist ^ | Nov 2nd 2017

Posted on 12/20/2018 6:50:55 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

DURING Friday prayers the congregation of Muhammad Yousef, a young puritanical preacher in the Egyptian town of Mansoura, once spilled out into the alleys surrounding his mosque. Now Sheikh Muhammad counts it a good week if he fills half the place.

In Cairo, 110km (68 miles) to the south, unveiled women sit in street cafés, traditionally a male preserve, smoking water-pipes. Some of the establishments serve alcohol, which Islam prohibits. “We’re in religious decline,” moans Sheikh Muhammad, whose despair is shared by clerics in many parts of the Arab world.

According to Arab Barometer, a pollster, much of the region is growing less religious. Voters who backed Islamists after the upheaval of the Arab spring in 2011 have grown disillusioned with their performance and changed their minds. In Egypt support for imposing sharia (Islamic law) fell from 84% in 2011 to 34% in 2016.

(Excerpt) Read more at economist.com ...


TOPICS: Egypt; Syria
KEYWORDS: abdelfattahelsisi; copticchristians; djibouti; egypt; egyptianchristians; erdogan; eritrea; gaza; hassannasrallah; hezbollah; iran; isis; islam; islamists; kurdistan; lebanon; receptayyiperdogan; sharia; sinai; sudan; turkey; yemen
The best form of government for an Arab country is an autocracy led by a secular Arab Strongman.
1 posted on 12/20/2018 6:50:55 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Supposedly European muslims are becoming less secular. Perhaps they will be seeking an influx of europeans.


2 posted on 12/20/2018 6:55:49 PM PST by posterchild (anti-science: thinking a fetus is distinct from a tumor and sex is determined by chromosomes)
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To: MinorityRepublican

We need more secular despots. Unfortunately, our swamp people have been fighting on the other side for the past hundred years and more.


3 posted on 12/20/2018 6:56:55 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Well said. That distills the results a lot of history.


4 posted on 12/20/2018 6:57:03 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine ( "It's always a party when you're eating the seed corn.")
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To: MinorityRepublican

No doubt calling Sisi a despot.


5 posted on 12/20/2018 7:03:30 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: MinorityRepublican

That headline from the communist Economist makes it sound like it’s a bad thing.

Now if it was Christians who were becoming more secular they would be cheering.


6 posted on 12/20/2018 7:06:55 PM PST by aquila48
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To: MinorityRepublican
Despots are pushing the Arab world to become more secular

While Democrats are pushing the Arab world to become more Jihadi, especially in America.

7 posted on 12/20/2018 7:10:34 PM PST by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Know Islam, No Peace

No Islam, Know Peace


8 posted on 12/20/2018 7:23:11 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Islam cannot, WILL NOT, coexist.


9 posted on 12/20/2018 7:26:34 PM PST by A strike (Import Third World become Third World)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sure.

To try to fake out the rest of the world so the rest of the world stops rejecting islamists and allows them to infiltrate.

They they will no longer be secularized, they will show their true colors in typical ruthless islamist fashion.

Always, just as soon as there are enough of them. They can afford to wait while they lull us into complacency and a false sense of security because they have been (more or less) behaving themselves.


10 posted on 12/20/2018 7:51:14 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The more they get away from that aatanically-percerted murder cult, the better for all of us!


11 posted on 12/20/2018 8:57:41 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: MinorityRepublican

Egypt and other muslim countries are wise enough to know that have to monitor and restrict what Imams preach and teach in the mosques.

The West, including America, let the worst radicals freely indoctrinate vulnerable populations of muslim immigrants.

The great bulk of muslim immigrants are looking for a more prosperous and safer life in the West, but the professional organizers paid to operate out of the mosques have sophisticated sales pitches to sucker them in through the door (like teaching the kids to read and write in their home language), and bring them over to radical interpretations gradually, like boiling a frog.

That is why the muslim population in the West is getting more strict and radical, while the muslim populations in Egypt and other muslim countries is getting more secular.

The mosques and the preachers need to be monitored and restricted.


12 posted on 12/20/2018 9:00:30 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

“Monitoring” isn’t working. Ask Bostonians who participated in their Marathon.


13 posted on 12/20/2018 9:29:46 PM PST by Does so (If Trump Colluded with Russians, Why Did Hillary Win The Popular Vote?)
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To: MinorityRepublican; All

Very Interesting caption ! UK paper known to advance socialist causes places in effect a target on Egyptian Moslem president because he’s moderate.


14 posted on 12/20/2018 9:39:31 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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To: MinorityRepublican

So it’s despotic for Muslims to be more secular.... Hokay


15 posted on 12/21/2018 4:21:20 AM PST by dangus ("The floor of Hell is paved with the skulls of bishops" -- St. Athanasius)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“The most remarkable, albeit nascent, transformation is in ultra-conservative Saudi Arabia, where Muhammad bin Salman, the young crown prince, has curbed the religious police, sacked thousands of imams and launched a new Centre for Moderation to censor “fake and extremist texts”. Women will soon be allowed to drive cars and enter sports stadiums. They are already encouraged to work. Now Prince Muhammad wants to create a new city, Neom, that seems modelled on freewheeling Dubai. Its promotional videos show women without headscarves partying with men. “We are only returning to what we used to be, to moderate Islam, open to the world and all religions,” he told foreign investors in October.”

It must kill the economist to point out this truth.

And hence the useful idiots in the Senate try to take him down. Morons. Some here, too.


16 posted on 12/21/2018 5:37:01 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Democrats: Party over Country.)
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To: posterchild
Supposedly European muslims are becoming less secular. Perhaps they will be seeking an influx of europeans.

Being on welfare gives them time to listen to imams. Islam is, to a large degree, incompatible with holding a real job.

17 posted on 12/21/2018 5:45:16 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: dangus
So it’s despotic for Muslims to be more secular.... Hokay

Meanwhile, the Iranian regime is not despotic...

18 posted on 12/21/2018 5:51:01 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
It depends on the despot, but Saudi Arabia and Egypt are both headed in the right direction. Yemen is not, but that's because of the non-Arab mullahcracy (unless one counts the thousands of foreign, mostly Arab, thugs who prop the regime) of Iran. The same applies to Lebanon, Syria, and Iraq. Turkey is, on paper, not a despotate, but as long as he's got the votes -- and is breathing -- Erdogan will continue to push Islamofascism (again, not an Arab country, although it has a good-sized Semitic minority population).

19 posted on 12/21/2018 12:05:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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