To: **dhs12345**

I think mathematics would be impossible were it not for a creator. The very mathematics that works consistently on a Earth the same way it does on Mars and beyond (physics, geometry, mathematical modeling, engineering, right down to quantum mechanics, and so on and so on) would be nothing but random gibberish if not designed by a creator.

You can explore the universe of mathematics with absolute certainty that its principles are rock solid.

How would that be possible if life just randomly evolved?

The precision of mathematics is an abstract world unto itself that someone designed down to the tiniest detail.

To imagine that it just evolved out of nothingness is beyond absurd.

As a final note, I think all research mathematicians would agree that when a new discovery is made, the mathematicians know full well that the concept was just waiting to be discovered. A mathematical discovery is akin to finding a dinosaur bone in Utah. Someone or something is responsible for that mathematical concept's existence.

It is not created by the mathematician...it is merely lying in wait for the mathematician to stumble upon it. Just like an archeological relic or an ancient bone.

To: **RoosterRedux**

Truth!

11 posted on **12/21/2018 11:55:36 AM PST** by avenir
("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)

To: **RoosterRedux**

Agreed. But keep in mind that mathematics helps us as humans understand the underlying structure.

But remember that it is not mathematics but the underlying structure that we are trying to understand.

To use a mathematical term — math allows us, we humans, to transform to the “real world.” Some of those translations are pretty strange.

Funny thing about randomness — if a system is truly random with all variable equal, it would never for a structure. Many atheists believe in randomness as a way to explain nature.

To: **RoosterRedux**

The very mathematics that works consistently on a Earth the same way it does on Mars and beyond

= = =

What!

1+1 does not = 3 on Mars?

/s off

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