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Shooting of Criminal by Citizen NOT Reported by Police & NOT Unusual
Ammoland ^ | 16 December, 2018 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/23/2018 5:40:31 AM PST by marktwain

On 7 December 2018, at about 7:45 p.m., the owner of the Alibaba's convenience store in Syracuse, New York shot and wounded an armed robber.

On 7 December 2018, at about 7:45 p.m., the owner of the Alibaba's convenience store in Syracuse, New York shot and wounded an armed robber. The robber ended up in the hospital. The story made the news.

A local reporter for syracuse.com, Patrick Lohmann, investigated the story and wrote it up. While doing a followup, Lohmann discovered the store owner had shot another robbery suspect six weeks earlier.

That story did *not* make the news. From syracuse.com:

SYRACUSE, N.Y. — A tobacco shop owner who shot and badly injured a would-be robber Friday night at his North Side store also shot at and possibly injured a would-be robber six weeks ago at the same shop at the same time of night.

The owner of Alibaba Market on Wolf Street confirmed that he'd been involved in two shootings in as many months during a brief interview at his store on Saturday afternoon.

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Syracuse police did not announce an arrest in the Oct. 30 case or issue a news release, which is unusual in cases where shots are fired or someone is arrested in a robbery.

Police said there is a record of a “robbery” at the Alibaba Market at 7:25 p.m. on Oct. 30, 2018,


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; dgu; news; selfdefense
The vast majority of defensive gun uses (dgu) are never reported to the police, or, if they are, are not recorded in official records, or reported in the media. Non-crimes are not required to be reported to police. Police are not required to report crimes to the media. The media are not required to publish reports of crimes or non-crimes.
1 posted on 12/23/2018 5:40:31 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Of course, the media are about as interested in reporting incidents of defensive uses of guns as they are in reporting misdeeds of the Clintons. But in today’s climate, if there were a news story about a shopkeeper who defended himself, “social justice” groups would single him out to attack him or destroy his store.


2 posted on 12/23/2018 5:51:59 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: marktwain

Meanwhile we still get ten minutes of Khashoggi every hour after 3 months.


3 posted on 12/23/2018 5:52:10 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: marktwain

The guy who was on Bill Frady’s Lock And Load radio show with you last week, Rob Morse, hosts a podcast that talks about these every week.

http://www.selfdefensegunstories.com


4 posted on 12/23/2018 5:58:52 AM PST by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: marktwain
Have you heard about this one?

http://www.newson6.com/story/39676526/police-identify-man-killed-by-clerk-after-pulling-gun-at-tulsa-walgreens

5 posted on 12/23/2018 6:07:39 AM PST by OKSooner (Whatever happened to, "The midterms are safe."?)
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To: OKSooner

I had heard of it, but not read that article.

Thanks.


6 posted on 12/23/2018 6:21:20 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: OKSooner

A clickable link to that article.

http://www.newson6.com/story/39676526/police-identify-man-killed-by-clerk-after-pulling-gun-at-tulsa-walgreens


7 posted on 12/23/2018 6:32:31 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: marktwain

You’re welcome. First disclosure I know of, of the decedent’s criminal record...


8 posted on 12/23/2018 6:32:49 AM PST by OKSooner (Whatever happened to, "The midterms are safe."?)
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To: marktwain

I read an article last week which listed New York State as having the lowest crime rates of all the States. Non recording of crime would certainly help them with their statistics.


9 posted on 12/23/2018 6:35:12 AM PST by dangerdoc
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To: marktwain

If they don’t report that a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy, did it really happen?


10 posted on 12/23/2018 7:06:31 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: dangerdoc
I read an article last week which listed New York State as having the lowest crime rates of all the States.

They are incorrect. Many states have lower crime rates than New York.

A quick perusal shows Colorado,Connecticut, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Ohio, Oregon, Massachusetts, Maine, Minnesota, North and South Dakota,New Hampshire, Nebraska Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming all have lower levels of both total violent crime and murder.

The numbers are from 2014, the last year the tool at the link had available.

Some articles about New York put in the qualifier "gun crime", to claim New York has a lower crime rate.

11 posted on 12/23/2018 7:07:04 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

IF he shoots enough of em, he won’t get robbed anymore, the police won’t need to be called, and the reporter would no longer have a “story”. What’s so bad about that?....LOL


12 posted on 12/23/2018 7:08:20 AM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: dangerdoc
I read an article last week which listed New York State as having the lowest crime rates of all the States.

Just to check, I used the tool listed previously to check property crime rates.

New York State was listed as second lowest, with Vermont being slightly lower.

I suspect you are correct about the non-reporting. I have read many people saying they do not bother to report property crimes because the police do nothing. It is especially prevalent in large urban areas.

13 posted on 12/23/2018 7:22:57 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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hummm well I wonder if it were only syr.com ONLY that declined to print the 1st self defense shooting and was it because the shooter was a minority?

Now if the other 7 syracuse news groups did not report the 1st shooting perhaps there’s a conspiracy of silence going on and who’s in charge there...that’s the story I’d like to read.


14 posted on 12/23/2018 8:31:55 AM PST by exPBRrat (.)
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To: exPBRrat
The police did not report the shooting.

It seems unlikely the other news outlets did. If they had, syr.com would likely have known of it.

15 posted on 12/23/2018 8:34:18 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain

I suspect you are correct about the non-reporting. I have read many people saying they do not bother to report property crimes because the police do nothing. It is especially prevalent in large urban areas.


Not reporting does perpetuate the problem. It may seem futile but I encourage all to do it.


16 posted on 12/23/2018 8:38:13 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: dangerdoc
I read an article last week which listed New York State as having the lowest crime rates of all the States.

They get that low rate by considering black crime a form of work. "Hey woman I robbed three C-stores today and one old lady with a bag of groceries. This new job is lookin' good!"

17 posted on 12/23/2018 8:39:43 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: marktwain

The police are not looking to protect you. They are looking to charge you with a crime.

JoMa


18 posted on 12/23/2018 12:17:36 PM PST by joma89
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