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Howie Carr: Dems flip-flop on border security
Boston Herald ^ | January 8, 2019 | Howie Carr

Posted on 01/08/2019 2:26:31 PM PST by george76

As much as they hate to admit it now, national Democrats were against illegal immigration before they were for it.

All quotes guaranteed verbatim:

Barack Obama, 2005: “We simply cannot allow people to pour into the U.S. undocumented, undetected, unchecked, circumventing the people who are waiting patiently, diligently, lawfully to become immigrants in this country.”

Hillary Clinton, 2014: “I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in and I do think you have to control your borders.”

Sen. Chuck Schumer, 2009: “People who enter the United States without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who enter the U.S. legally. The American people will never accept immigration reform unless they truly believe that their government is committed to ending future illegal immigration.”

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, 2008: “We do need to address the issue of immigration and the challenge we have of undocumented people in our country. We certainly do not want any more coming in.”

Sen. Bernie Sanders, 2007: “I don’t know why we need millions of people to be coming into the country who will work for lower wages than American workers and drives wages down even lower than they are right now.”

...

Everything these Democrats predicted — welfare fraud, drugs, rampant crime of every variety — has come to pass, and then some. And yet, they are demanding that we allow more hordes of these criminals from the Third World to invade the U.S.

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This catastrophe all started with the Immigration Reform Act of 1965, sponsored by Sen. Ted Kennedy.

(Excerpt) Read more at bostonherald.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: border; bordersecurity; carr; crime; drugs; flipflop; howie; howiecarr; illegalimmigration; immigration; kennedy; rampantcrime; security; tedkennedy; wall; welfare; welfarefraud

1 posted on 01/08/2019 2:26:31 PM PST by george76
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Boston Herald... Embed the videos! So should Trump and anyone else who cares about showing the dems for what they are. Videos, not print media.

Doesn’t anyone understand communication?

2 posted on 01/08/2019 2:30:42 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: george76

I cannot begin to imagine how it is humanly possible for Trump to even begin to possibly maybe in a billion years lose this debate. The facts on our side are breathtakingly overwhelming.

And I say that even though I place almost ZERO faith in the ignorant pig-dog US voter...

The same voters who put Hussein in office TWICE, Clinton in office TWICE, and have given the dems control of the House for something like 55 of the last 75 years.

Even with an electorate so stunningly ignorant as that, Trump cannot possibly lose this debate.

Even brain dead retards like Biden would win this one if he were on our side.


3 posted on 01/08/2019 2:34:30 PM PST by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: george76

Just lip service from all of them. They knew full well nothing was going to get done.


4 posted on 01/08/2019 2:34:54 PM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Cobra64

That’s what Trump should do tonight. Just show a compilation of all these directly from their own mouths and then just say “Know what? I completely agree with these folks”. lol


5 posted on 01/08/2019 2:47:17 PM PST by Openurmind
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2544445/posts


6 posted on 01/08/2019 2:53:26 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa; Cobra64; george76
Most people have a memory and remember that the dems supported the fence at that time because it was going to be part of immigration reform.

There was supposed to be an immigration bill to go along with it and the immigration bill was passed by the bipartisan senate with 65 cloture votes and it was called Hagel-Martinez.

But then Hastert invoked the Hastert Rule and refused to let the senate bill onto the floor of the House for a vote. And it died.

The dems know that they were lied to and the GOP was able to get the Secure Fence Act and the Real ID Act enacted. But the dems learned their lesson will never allow another stand alone border fence bill to pass.

The dems will support more fencing because they voted for the 2013 immigration bill that had money for more border fencing, but they won't vote for a stand alone fence bill.

7 posted on 01/08/2019 2:55:19 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa
with an electorate so stunningly ignorant as that, Trump cannot possibly lose this debate.

Except that this is not a "debate" and at least in the short run "facts don't matter" to most of the electorate. What matters are the ideas which people choose to believe.

A large number of people must make different choices and act differently than before. Persuading them to do so requires a lot more than rational arguments and facts.

8 posted on 01/08/2019 2:56:29 PM PST by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time)
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To: george76

That was 100% my point.


9 posted on 01/08/2019 2:57:39 PM PST by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: george76

“We simply cannot allow people to pour into the U.S. undocumented, undetected, unchecked, circumventing the people who are waiting patiently, diligently, lawfully to become immigrants in this country.”
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The only time the Kenyan from Indonesia ever told the truth.


10 posted on 01/08/2019 3:04:37 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: george76

Trump should quote all these people tonight in his address.


11 posted on 01/08/2019 3:07:45 PM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: george76

bkmk


12 posted on 01/08/2019 3:58:28 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: george76

It appears the open borders lobby on the right has made common cause with the lunatics on the left.


13 posted on 01/08/2019 4:09:58 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: george76

No body cares that the dems flip flop on this or any other issue.

The dems don’t care what they say from day to day.
The dem base doesn’t care what’s said day to day.

They are pathological lairs as choir leaders for intellectually inbred idiots.

The leaders aren’t capable of caring and the followers aren’t capable of tracking the changes.

To assume that there’s any point or hope for reason with the left at this late date is its own form of incompetence.


14 posted on 01/08/2019 4:12:56 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: george76
Throughout history, there are many princes of fools and puppets of the oligarchs.
15 posted on 01/08/2019 5:06:17 PM PST by poconopundit
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ImVho, ANYONE in the USA who TRUSTS the LEFTIST MORONS of 2019’s DIMocRAT Party needs to “get their head examined”, to see if they are capable of critical thought.

Yours, TMN78247


16 posted on 01/08/2019 6:47:34 PM PST by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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ImVho, ANYONE in the USA who TRUSTS the LEFTIST MORONS of 2019’s DIMocRAT Party needs to “get their head examined”, to see if they are capable of critical thought.

The TRUTH is that DIMs like Schumer, Pelosi, Durbin & others of that ilk CANNOT BE TRUSTED to be even “somewhat honest”.

Yours, TMN78247


17 posted on 01/08/2019 6:50:07 PM PST by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: george76

Selling out the country for politics ...

When the democrat party is gone (hillary’s treason trials will bust them apart) that is what they will be remembered for.


18 posted on 01/08/2019 10:07:49 PM PST by elbook
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To: george76

I haven’t seen Mr. Trumps Oval Office speech, but I thought he should have played all of these, since he had the multi-MSM national audience.


19 posted on 01/09/2019 11:03:25 PM PST by gnickgnack2 ( Another bad day for Trump, he only got seven major things accomplished .)
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To: gnickgnack2

Send the quotes to every news outlet and radio station within the reach of your fingers. saturate. Keep saturating.


20 posted on 01/09/2019 11:26:17 PM PST by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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