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Lab Severs Ties With James Watson, Citing ‘Unsubstantiated and Reckless’ Remarks
New York Times ^ | January 11, 2019 | Amy Harmon

Posted on 01/12/2019 5:23:13 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

No need to run from any truth. Our position needs to be that, even if such differences were real, everyone should be equal under the law, and that nobody’s achievement has to be limited by a group statistic.


21 posted on 01/12/2019 6:09:31 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adical Islam,)
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To: reaganaut1

Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory revoked the honorary titles held by its longtime leader James D. Watson on Friday, describing as “unsubstantiated and reckless” his recent remarks about genetic differences in intelligence among racial groups.

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The way racism is defined, the truth can be racist.


22 posted on 01/12/2019 6:09:34 AM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Right now we have a global crisis in which millions of non-white people, decades or centuries after throwing off white colonialism, are desperately trying to get into the pockets of the world administered by whites.

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Maybe that’s because whites, as defined by liberals, are a global minority.


23 posted on 01/12/2019 6:11:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: reaganaut1

Oh great.

Here’s where FR nut bin demonstrates their favorite “science” topic like the libs are with “climate change”.

Frankly if there are people that think seriously that blacks are intellectual inferior to whites FULL STOP, then you need to take an IQ test themselves so we can have a name and a score to go with the people that are so in love with this topic.


24 posted on 01/12/2019 6:11:30 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: reaganaut1

I hope he researched William Schockley before he went down this path. It is the hill you will die on, in every possible way, even going back 60 years ago. This is the ultimate blasphemy and you will be burned at the stake in every metaphorical sense possible. It will likely cause the loss of his family too (see William Schockley).


25 posted on 01/12/2019 6:16:11 AM PST by BRL
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To: reaganaut1

He’s over 90 years old.
Let him be. Stop baiting the Doctor to further incriminate himself. We have nothing to gain, and it only stresses him.
He is entitled to his empirical conclusions.


26 posted on 01/12/2019 6:19:06 AM PST by lee martell (AT)
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To: reaganaut1

It is an article of faith of our current civic pseudo-religion that there are no differences in intelligence between ethnicities or sexes. To suggest otherwise is blasphemy, even if you are supported by evidence. We should go wherever the evidence leads. Our belief that all men are legally and morally equal does not mean we have to pretend that they are physically and mentally equal if they are in fact not.

All that said, I don’t think the evidence actually supports Dr. Watson. There was a study—I forget where to find it at the moment—comparing IQs of members of the same ethnic groups who were raised in different parts of the world. Compare the average IQs of West Africans in West Africa vs, the children of West African immigrants in the US, and compare those to the descendants of West African slaves. You think you find that the average native West Africans have IQs well below 100, the average descendants of West African slaves have IQs somewhat below 100, but the average children of West African immigrants to the US have IQs well OVER 100. Yet however you define “race,” they are certainly part of the same race.

Likewise, the study showed that while Ashkenazi Jews and East Asians in the US have IQs well above average, East Asians in East Asia and Ashkenazi Jews in Israel have IQs in the 90s.

The difference seems to be being a member of a population that culturally values education. West African immigrants bring some undesirable cultural traits with them, but they tend to stay married and push their kids to do well in school so they can be doctors and lawyers, just like Ashkenazi Jews and East Asians in the US, and they achieve similar results. The descendants of slaves don’t share that culture, unfortunately, with predictable results there as well.


27 posted on 01/12/2019 6:20:21 AM PST by The Pack Knight
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To: reaganaut1
We're supposed to believe that homosexuality is a genetic (inborn) trait, but that intelligence isn't.

Uh huh.

28 posted on 01/12/2019 6:25:14 AM PST by IronJack
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“[...] In the film, Dr. Watson references a view that average I.Q. differences between blacks and whites reflect underlying genetic differences shaped by natural selection. But leading geneticists say that even modern DNA studies are currently unable to validate such hypotheses about differences between human populations.”

Don’t scientists use theories to explain things, and test the theories with the available evidence? If Watson studies generations of IQ test data and makes a hypothesis, how is that not valid science? Because it makes leftists uncomfortable?

What is the leftist explanation? “Underserved communities”?


29 posted on 01/12/2019 6:25:31 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (Chuck Schumer--giving pond scum everywhere a bad name.)
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"But IQ does matter for immigration policy. In an economy that increasingly rewards brains, you don't want to import lots of low-IQ people. "

Unless you're a Democrat.

… just having some fun. Your post was eloquent.

30 posted on 01/12/2019 6:27:11 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: reaganaut1

The Left are ardent proponents of Darwin’s theories on evolution and survival of the fittest over The Creation of God Almighty.
Of course their dogma will be rebuffed when one points out that homosexuality (and it’s sortof sister, transgenderism) are not genetically based in any demonstrable way; it’s a choice.
The points expounded by Dr. Watson have enough exceptions to make them doubtful, in my opinion, as I have known many very well educated and intelligent people from all races, creeds and colors to cause me to doubt them.
I see genetics as an amazing medical breakthrough but not one that will allow for broad brush categorization. Having said that, if we ever discover a hypocrisy gene, Leftist will be 100% homozygous.


31 posted on 01/12/2019 6:28:50 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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Leftists are infuriated by people saying there may be innate racial differences in intelligence because they are afraid it is true.

“Blacks are exactly the same as whites, except blacks are better singers and athletes.”

Said without a hint of cognitive dissonance...


32 posted on 01/12/2019 6:30:27 AM PST by null and void (If they don't respect our borders, why would you expect them to respect our National Parks, or us?)
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To: kearnyirish2

Which is why the globalists are the new colonialists. They realized the real economic power was in Western Civ countries, but they couldn’t control it. They would not be able to grow economic power in the Third World because it would never progress to a sufficient extent. But they knew they could rely on its ignorance to get themselves voted into power, so they had to import it.


33 posted on 01/12/2019 6:34:44 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: reaganaut1

So science is bound by PC.


34 posted on 01/12/2019 6:34:48 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: reaganaut1

The main thing the people who bitch about Watson are missing is that by ignoring the link between race, DNA, and Intelligence we may never develop therapies that can boost the IQ in people who desire to be more intelligent.

I am all for recognizing the difference, then developing the technology to help children who may be born with an IQ disadvantage to be able to overcome it.


35 posted on 01/12/2019 6:38:11 AM PST by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: reaganaut1
The modern equivalent of witch trials.

Another point showing the Left is anti-science.

36 posted on 01/12/2019 6:41:14 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: reaganaut1
Leftists are infuriated by people saying there may be innate racial differences in intelligence because they are afraid it is true.

They know better than conservatives do that it is true. Their social welfare spending priorities indicate an intense desire to compensate for it. Conservatives are far more willing to give everyone a chance to prove their capabilities, regardless of what statistics say.

37 posted on 01/12/2019 6:42:46 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Moonman62
The way racism is defined, the truth can be racist.

Definitely.

Racist now means disagreeing with a Progressive.

38 posted on 01/12/2019 6:44:51 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: reaganaut1

Mankind’s problems, at their heart, are moral and spiritual.

These two things drive culture.

And politics then is downstream from culture ...


39 posted on 01/12/2019 6:45:12 AM PST by _Jim (democrats create mobs. Republicans create jobs.)
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“just as surely as the fact that East Africans win all of the world’s major marathons could be indicative of some kind of genetic superiority.”

And it’s nothing but racism that dictates every NBA team be almost entirely composed of black players even though blacks make up only about 12% of the US population??


40 posted on 01/12/2019 6:46:05 AM PST by libstripper
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