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1 posted on 01/17/2019 5:02:45 AM PST by 11th_VA
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Trump should adjourn Congress until after the next election.

Nothing is going to get done anyway.


2 posted on 01/17/2019 5:05:52 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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“Overall, 58% of the public opposes expanding the wall along the border with Mexico”

I don’t believe 58% oppose.

Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument. If one fails to establish the premise to his argument, one almost always fails to convince others of his conclusion. On the other hand, if one establishes a premise one will more than likely get others to agree with his conclusion.


3 posted on 01/17/2019 5:06:37 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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Axios and Pew. No bias there. Nope.


4 posted on 01/17/2019 5:07:53 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Fox News: "We distort, you deride")
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If the reporter we’re honest which he is not he would find out and know that the wall represents the end to any and all honest elections in the future because of the numbers of illegal aliens which would be voting Democrat registered Democrat get driver’s licenses and free stuff.


5 posted on 01/17/2019 5:08:00 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (I donÂ’t like it; I wonÂ’t see it - Conservative...I donÂ’t like it; No one should see it! - Liberal)
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By the numbers: bullcrap:
6 posted on 01/17/2019 5:09:36 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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A whole lotta good can come from this.

This is the hill to die on, no?

Stay the course Mr. President, and know there are tens of millions that support you 1000%.


7 posted on 01/17/2019 5:09:57 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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What are the numbers among registered voters/likely voters? Probably more in favor of the wall.


8 posted on 01/17/2019 5:10:20 AM PST by McCarthysGhost
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Pew is leftist propaganda, so the Trump team’s internal polling is probably better.


10 posted on 01/17/2019 5:11:38 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Same polls said hillary was winning by a landslide.


11 posted on 01/17/2019 5:12:02 AM PST by Eagles6
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...58% of the public opposes expanding the wall along the border with Mexico, while 40% supports it.

I doubt this, and it depends upon how the survey was worded and who responded. I read one poll last week that said over 70% support the wall. Clearly, something is amiss.

12 posted on 01/17/2019 5:12:46 AM PST by econjack
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a majority of the public still opposes the wall

Ridiculous. The majority of the people may not care, but there is no decent reason for anyone to "oppose the wall". The Democrat leadership has reasons -- cheap labor, sex trafficking, additional new voters who want government benefits. Democrat politicians can profit from open borders.

But the majority the public? How on earth do they profit from an open border? The open border is all negative for the man on the street. He may not care about the wall. He may support the wall. But oppose the wall??? That's something only SJW do -- and they are not the majority of the public.

14 posted on 01/17/2019 5:16:09 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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The shutdown ends because it is the democrats peo0le and agenda that gets hurt the most by the shutdown.... A no brainer really.


17 posted on 01/17/2019 5:19:30 AM PST by BRL
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It will end, and it’s not a shutdown. It’s a partial freeze on funding.


18 posted on 01/17/2019 5:21:48 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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Don't you just love it when RAT news outlets tell us what their opposition thinks (Republicans and Trumpsters) while they skew the questions to get the results to push "their" narrative.

Never believe with any certainty any facts a RAT obtains to describe you.

19 posted on 01/17/2019 5:22:23 AM PST by thingumbob (Antifa. Carrying on Hitler's legacy one beating at a time.)
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Trump should pivot and make this about downsizing government.

Ax those that haven’t been to work in 30 days, anyone hired by Obama, and anyone not loyal to Trump’s agenda.

Just massive downsizing will give us more than enough money for the wall and win millions of votes.

Polls are b.s. political spin these days. Trump won in the only poll that mattered - the election.


20 posted on 01/17/2019 5:22:32 AM PST by TigerClaws
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If 58% of Americans really don’t approve of building a wall to protect our country from illegal aliens this country is done.


21 posted on 01/17/2019 5:22:46 AM PST by Pravious
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When you have as prominent a Dem as Cher shouting to fund the Wall, it is ridiculous to pretend that Dem support is nearly nothing. I read a comment on my former home in California’s community website that said Trump should negotiate by offering to help the Dreamers. I’m thinking ‘these people are not getting full news, must be watching the Lamestream Media’. I suspect it is a majority of Dems that want some sort of barrier, but the ‘news’ would NEVER report that.


22 posted on 01/17/2019 5:24:12 AM PST by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell.)
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Axios is where the founders of Politico went after they successfully institutionalized Politico as a news source.

It seems they are on a mission to spawn one liberal news website after another to create a liberal echo chamber.

-PJ

23 posted on 01/17/2019 5:25:54 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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The Democrats set this trap.

They not been able to separate President Trump from his base (and if they can not separate him from the base they cannot impeach nor will they be able to beat him in the next election).

So they set it up to be a “read my lips” situation to force the President to go back on one of his major campaign promises. Border security and a wall.

This has always worked for them in the past. But it is not working now. The reason, President Trump owed no one but the American people that voted for him anything.

Not the GOP
Not Big business
Not the media

They have no leverage over him.

And contrary to the opinion of this article, the shutdown will not go on forever. Pressure is building but it is the Democrats that will cave first and they are the ones that will pay the political price.

The joy comes from knowing they did it to themselves.


24 posted on 01/17/2019 5:32:28 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows. Fully 44 percent of voters support construction of a border wall, slightly fewer than the 47 percent who oppose it.

Slightly different numbers here.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/16/trump-government-shutdown-border-wall-national-emergency-poll-1102366


26 posted on 01/17/2019 5:36:46 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE
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