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Why Trump will win the wall fight
The Hill ^ | Feb 16, 2019 | JONATHAN TURLEY, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

Posted on 02/17/2019 3:24:51 AM PST by 11th_VA

... Democrats have indicated they will rely on the ruling in House of Representatives versus Sylvia Burwell, in which the court declared the House of Representatives had standing to sue over executive overreach and that Obama violated the Constitution in ordering the payment of billions to insurance companies without authorization from Congress.

I was lead counsel for the House of Representatives in that case. Ironically, Pelosi vehemently opposed the litigation as a frivolous and unfounded challenge to presidential authority. We won the case. Superficially, it may look like the wall controversy. Obama sought funds from Congress and, when unsuccessful, acted unilaterally. But Obama ordered the money directly from the Treasury as a permanent appropriation, like the money used to pay tax refunds. Congress had never approved such payments.

Conversely, Trump is using appropriated funds. Like the authority under the National Emergencies Act, Congress gave this money to the executive branch without meaningful limitations. Trump now has almost $1.4 billion in newly approved funds to use for border protection. He has identified about $8 billion in loosely dedicated funds for military construction, drug interdiction, and forfeitures. Even if a court disagreed with the use of this money, Trump has the power and funds to start construction of the wall.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: border; trumpwall; turley; wall; winning
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1 posted on 02/17/2019 3:24:51 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

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2 posted on 02/17/2019 3:36:01 AM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: 11th_VA

Your link doesn’t work for me.


3 posted on 02/17/2019 3:41:33 AM PST by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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To: 11th_VA

Very interesting if true.And it comes from one who’s surely no friend of the President.


4 posted on 02/17/2019 3:43:21 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: airborne
Sorry, new Link
5 posted on 02/17/2019 3:44:15 AM PST by 11th_VA (Hey RATs - Negotiate or Starve)
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To: 11th_VA

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mnGeOOzZmvxX

All the crybabies about the bill Trump just signed are way off base,its a seven month stop gap bill with little effect beyond seven months.Thanks pugmama.


6 posted on 02/17/2019 3:53:54 AM PST by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: 11th_VA
Yes, legally, President Trump clearly has the authority to use appropriate funds, and to reallocate them by declaring a National Emergency.

But this fight won't be about what is True, Legal, and Moral.

The President himself stated this will go to the 9th Circuit, "Even thought it shouldn't be there." Why the 9th? We know the answer. It is the most liberal and out of control circuit in the U.S. The Democrats go judge shopping every time.

Which brings us back to the Supreme Court, and ultimately to Judas Roberts.

You know, the Judas who changed his vote at the last minute and upheld ObamaCare. The man who chose to engage in a public "rebuke" of the President when Trump dared to state the obvious - - many judges are political hacks.

Chief Justice Roberts Issues Rare Rebuke To Trump; Trump Fires Back

I don't trust Judas Roberts for one second. He just voted to stop a state abortion law, voting with the Satanic liberals on the court. He did nothing when Justice Scalia was, I believe, murdered.

Either he has been blackmailed, or bought. Perhaps both.

If Judas Roberts can author a ruling that laughably declares the ObamaCare tax as not a tax - then he is capable or ruling against the President on the wall.

7 posted on 02/17/2019 4:00:01 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: 11th_VA

There’s a difference between giving billions to insurance companies verse building a wall to keep out illegals.


8 posted on 02/17/2019 4:08:49 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: 11th_VA
...Trump has the power and funds to start continue construction of the wall.
9 posted on 02/17/2019 4:30:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 11th_VA

Kiss The Ring

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10 posted on 02/17/2019 4:34:28 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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You may step forward and, kiss The Ring...

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11 posted on 02/17/2019 4:43:43 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yep. He’s against the wall and Trump. Here’s the finish to the article:

Congress has the authority to rescind the national emergency declaration of Trump with a vote of both chambers. The legislative branch should do so. If Congress cannot muster the votes, however, a federal judge is unlikely to do so. Simply put, the courts were not created to protect Congress from itself. Congress has been heading to hell for decades, and it is a bit late to complain about the destination.


12 posted on 02/17/2019 4:44:03 AM PST by Moonman62 (Facts are racist.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Very interesting if true.And it comes from one who’s surely no friend of the President.”

Not only has Congress delegated its power to the Executive branch and its agencies, yes, Turley makes a good case based on examples related to the emergency powers law itself. WWhat it also interesting is what Turley doesn’t discuss - how Congress yielded its power to the Courts as well. The Burwell case mentioned by Turley gave one House (run by GOP no less) standing to sue the Executive. Think about the ramifications of that alone. Both Houses combined have the power of the purse and impeachment where the President commits high crimes and misdemeanors. Instead only one House is needed to go to Court to try to force the Executive to do its job, and the Court gladly took power it does not have.

Looking at this in the light most favorable to the demokraps, there is a “political disagreement” on whether there is an emergency at the Mexican-US border. So now that one House of the Congress can have standing to sue, the Court cannot take it under the doctrine that a Court may not issue political opinions.


13 posted on 02/17/2019 4:44:54 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: 11th_VA

Sorry Socialists (fka Democrats), we are building the wall...You have to find a new way to steal elections...maybe the drug cartels will help you find a trunk full of ballots in Mexico...


14 posted on 02/17/2019 5:20:23 AM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: rodguy911

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1mnGeOOzZmvxX

All the crybabies about the bill Trump just signed are way off base,its a seven month stop gap bill with little effect beyond seven months.Thanks pugmama.
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Exactly right, and when you drill down into any of the supposed “poison pill” provisions they are very minor and limited and they hype from bitchers is way overblown


15 posted on 02/17/2019 5:33:44 AM PST by TheBullWat
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To: SkyPilot

I believe Roberts declared that Obamacare WAS a tax.


16 posted on 02/17/2019 5:46:29 AM PST by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too ! TRUMP TOUGH - AMERICA STRONG)
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To: airborne

Try this:

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/430335-why-trump-will-win-the-wall-fight


17 posted on 02/17/2019 5:46:37 AM PST by richardtavor
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To: airborne

It brings me a nice car add but it still says “404.”


18 posted on 02/17/2019 6:00:05 AM PST by arthurus (dj)
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To: 11th_VA

the tense is wrong

Rather than will win, thee tense should be has won


19 posted on 02/17/2019 6:03:36 AM PST by bert ( (KE. N.P. N.C. +12) Honduras must be invaded to protect America from invasion)
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Lil’ Chucky Todd said this morning that the President faces a long uphill battle...He said winning this would be unprecedented and would tear apart the checks and balances between the legislative branch and the executive branch...

Chucky is, of course, an idiot of the first order...


20 posted on 02/17/2019 6:17:02 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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