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Aurora shooter Gary Martin passed 2 gun background checks despite felony conviction
Fox News ^ | February 19, 2019 | Robert Gearty

Posted on 02/25/2019 10:11:40 AM PST by rogerantone1

The disgruntled worker who killed five people in Aurora, Ill., last week after being fired had passed two gun background checks five years ago, despite a criminal record that should have prevented him from possessing a firearm, Fox News has found.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; aurora; banglist; ccw; cprc; illinois; nra; patquinn; secondamendment
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1 posted on 02/25/2019 10:11:40 AM PST by rogerantone1
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To: rogerantone1

Well the only obvious thing to do would be to pass more laws.

/s


2 posted on 02/25/2019 10:13:50 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: rogerantone1

Pissed off Black guy murders five Caucasians (one a White Hispanic) and this story is only being used to push Gun Control.


3 posted on 02/25/2019 10:16:53 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: dp0622
Well the only obvious thing to do would be to pass more laws.

Yes, they need a law to make it a felony to commit a felony or something like that. /S

4 posted on 02/25/2019 10:18:04 AM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: rogerantone1

I’ve had occasion to deal with the Illinois State Police Firearms Unit fairly recently to renew my FOID. I learned some rather interesting facts.

That unit is budgeted for 7 people. When I talked to them they had 3. The month I called them they had 90,000 renewals to process. The next month they had 100,000 and the month after that there were 150,000 up for renewal.

I spoke with the nicest woman who pulled my renewal to the “top of the pile” as it was about to expire. It’s no wonder this creep slipped through the system. The entire FOID system is stupid. It should be abolished entirely.

L


5 posted on 02/25/2019 10:19:46 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending it is.)
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To: redcatcherb412

ROFL!!

Well sadly, they need a bill to let abortionists know that they CANT KILL a human outside the womb!!!

So in essence, your sarcastic statement is being voted on in the senate soon.

SMH


6 posted on 02/25/2019 10:21:56 AM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: rogerantone1

I recall reading about how Thomas Hamilton (the perpetrator of the Dunblane school murders in Scotland in 1996) went through the stringent background checks as required by British law in order to legally possess handguns. And he was still permitted to keep them despite local police officers recommending that his permits be revoked and his guns confiscated before it was tragically too late.


7 posted on 02/25/2019 10:26:07 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: Lurker

If I googled this right, FOID is required to own or carry a firearm in IL. And the bureaucracy to run it is budgeted for 7 people.

If so... assume this is by design. That libtarded officials thought they came up with a slick way to impair 2A rights. Am I right?


8 posted on 02/25/2019 10:28:22 AM PST by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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To: rogerantone1

You can;t stop someone who just snaps one day...

Unless you advocate for a 1984 type society...


9 posted on 02/25/2019 10:35:55 AM PST by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: rogerantone1
Government accountability, or lacktherof.
10 posted on 02/25/2019 10:38:38 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Made In The USA

“If I googled this right, FOID is required to own or carry a firearm in IL. And the bureaucracy to run it is budgeted for 7 people.”

Yep. Budgeted for 7 and as of last August they had 3. It’s a boring, crap job that doesn’t pay much, either. The lady I talked to said she does it precisely because IL likes to jack gun owners around.

“If so... assume this is by design.”

It is. The last Dem Governor, Quinn, did it deliberately. The subsequent useless GOP Governor, Rauner, did nothing to correct it. It will no doubt become even worse under Pritzker.

We are planning to leave IL in less than 24 months even if we take a serious financial hit to do so.

L


11 posted on 02/25/2019 10:42:53 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending it is.)
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To: rogerantone1

Not sure why these background checks failed to identify past convictions. There was a history of violence.

I’m interested in learning the autopsy results and suspect they might be more relevant, especially if THC is found.


12 posted on 02/25/2019 10:48:35 AM PST by PsyCon
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To: rogerantone1

A lot of weapons bought during the Y2K era are now up for FFL records destruction. 20 years is length of time a lot of these transactions are required to be maintained.


13 posted on 02/25/2019 10:56:38 AM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: rogerantone1

Same with the Texas church shooter from a couple years ago.

We need more gun laws!


14 posted on 02/25/2019 11:07:34 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.S)
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To: PsyCon

You can download a copy of the active records in the FBI’s NICS indices as of 31 Dec 2018. It lists the numbers by state for each disqualifying factor.

My state has only 18 entries for ‘unlawful drug user’, which is hilarious, since our tiny county has more than that many convictions each week.

Illinois has only 16,047 felons listed, whereas Indiana (with a population half that of Illinois) has 457,554 felons in the database.

If the states don’t send data to the FBI, people don’t get rejected by FFLs.


15 posted on 02/25/2019 11:12:21 AM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: rogerantone1

The failure was that of the workplace, which not only didn’t have any sponsored armaments in place, but prohibited volunteer protectors.

This is extremely evil. Avoid!

Oh, and don’t ASK local LE, but TELL them how to identify your “good guys.” Keep a copy of your telling them, even if it is in the 911 call. For example “our guys are wearing purple vests. You are responsible for not hurting them.”


16 posted on 02/25/2019 11:15:14 AM PST by old-ager (anti-new-ager)
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To: rogerantone1

So, background checks don’t work. Let’s move straight to confiscation. /s


17 posted on 02/25/2019 11:47:01 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: GraceG

“Unless you advocate for a 1984 type society...”

Could NEVER happen /SARC


18 posted on 02/25/2019 11:50:15 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Lurker

FWIW, we moved from NY to TX in 2010. There’s things we miss (family, the lakes, etc.) but absolutely love it here. No personal income tax, a sense of freedom (there’s no FOID in TX), moderate winters, good schools, a rational State Government and I don’t feel like an outsider for being Conservative. I can easily find like minded people who love their God and their country.


19 posted on 02/25/2019 1:09:53 PM PST by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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To: Made In The USA; All

The remaining free states need to change their form of representation to stop the big cities from perverting the laws statewide.

All of the free states are in danger now and being taken over by Californians and New Yorkers.


20 posted on 02/25/2019 1:25:09 PM PST by old-ager (anti-new-ager)
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