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California Bill Would Force Pastors And Priests To Tell What They Heard In Confession
The Federalist ^ | February 26, 2019 | Holly Scheer

Posted on 02/26/2019 10:38:25 AM PST by detective

A new bill in California seeks to intrude on one of the most sacred relationships—that between clergy and penitent in formal confession. Currently, clergy members are already mandatory reporters of child abuse and neglect, but sins confessed specifically in confession are exempt under current law from mandatory reporting.

Bill 360, introduced by Democrat state Sen. Jerry Hill, would “delete that exception for a penitential communication, thereby requiring clergy to make a mandated report even if they acquired the knowledge or reasonable suspicion of child abuse or neglect during a penitential communication.” This is an egregious overreach of secular authority, stepping into sacred religious rites, and will not protect children or stem the tide of child abuse.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: aidingandabetting; childrape; confession; priests; rape; sexualabuse; tyranny
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1 posted on 02/26/2019 10:38:25 AM PST by detective
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To: detective

The Progressives have lost this battle before.

They would have more success if they were to apply this idea to lawyers.


2 posted on 02/26/2019 10:40:31 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: detective

Where’s the separation between church and state they keep clamoring about?


3 posted on 02/26/2019 10:40:38 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: detective

Catholic priests have died horrible deaths for not revealing what they heard in confession.


4 posted on 02/26/2019 10:41:18 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: detective

So what. If the Pastor doesn’t want to pas on the information, he can serve Jesus as a pastor to the inmates behind bars. It would be best if the state was not doing this, but my allegiance is to Jesus first, and if I go to jail for it, God has a reason for me to be there.

I got sent to Sierra Leone during the Ebola epidemic and God had a very good reason to send me there. The best three years of my Christian life.


5 posted on 02/26/2019 10:41:55 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: fella

Since the MSM refer to Trump’s lawyer as fixed, I am likewise referring to all of them as fixers.


6 posted on 02/26/2019 10:43:52 AM PST by Kozy (new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
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To: laplata

Young boys have spent a lifetime in a living hell by the hands of priests.


7 posted on 02/26/2019 10:45:23 AM PST by Kozy (new age haruspex; "Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth.")
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To: fella

Most priests have voided their sacramental (and legal) immunity IMO.

When they stay silent on homosexual pedophiles and pederasts in their midst, why should they be above the law?

The “progressives” would not lose this battle before a jury. Only a Catholic judge(s) would rule in their favor.


8 posted on 02/26/2019 10:45:35 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: detective

Client-Lawyer privilege Has gone to hell.(Trump/Cohen) This seems like the next logical commie step.


9 posted on 02/26/2019 10:48:31 AM PST by o-n-money (We should rename California to Newer Mexico.)
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To: detective

Have you noticed that there are a lot more commercials about telling your doctor about how you are feeling during your doctor’s visit?

Remember that medical records are subject to subpoena. With the “red flag” laws, you could loose your gun rights just because you told your doctor you were feeling down.


10 posted on 02/26/2019 10:48:31 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: fella

Religion is protected by amendment, just like the media, so, we need to force journalists to give up their sources, as well.

One unconstitutional deed deserves another....;)


11 posted on 02/26/2019 10:50:47 AM PST by FrankR (How to get a one-armed SOCIALIST out of a tree...wave to him.)
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To: detective

Meanwhile, government agencies operate in secrecy.


12 posted on 02/26/2019 10:50:55 AM PST by grumpygresh (The only check on a rogue DOJ and FBI is jury nullification.)
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To: laplata

Unless you are making a face to face confession, how does a priest know who you are? Our church gives the option of both a confession behind a screen or face to face. Sometimes people don’t always go to the same church for confession.


13 posted on 02/26/2019 10:54:05 AM PST by LilRhody
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To: fella

“They would have more success if they were to apply this idea to lawyers.”

In progress now with Mike Cohen.


14 posted on 02/26/2019 10:54:51 AM PST by treetopsandroofs
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I thought leftist demanded separation of church and state?


15 posted on 02/26/2019 10:55:04 AM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: detective

This would end rather abruptly once parishioners started confessing to false crimes.


16 posted on 02/26/2019 10:57:24 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: laplata

“Catholic priests have died horrible deaths for not revealing what they heard in confession.”

A source: https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/08/22/these-priests-were-martyred-for-refusing-to-violate-the-seal-of-confession/


17 posted on 02/26/2019 10:57:39 AM PST by treetopsandroofs
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To: LilRhody

If you go to one church on a regular basis, there is a
good chance they’ll recognize your voice.

Marko


18 posted on 02/26/2019 11:00:19 AM PST by markoman (Cautiously pessimistic.)
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To: LilRhody

Actual Christians profess their sins directly to the Father, as intended by Christ. There is no Biblical basis for a middle man like a priest.


19 posted on 02/26/2019 11:02:02 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Mariner

Absolutely agree.

Any priest who uses confession to protect a pederast is likely one himself and belongs in jail anyway.

It remains shocking to me that the Church didn’t come down on sex abuse like a sledgehammer, but instead chose to protect it from the highest to the lowest levels. They have to be incredibly sick freaks, up to their necks in it and then some, in order to react the way they have.


20 posted on 02/26/2019 11:10:08 AM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody is coming to save the day)
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