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Giuliani will travel to Ukraine, saying country's probes may be 'very, very helpful' for Trump
FoxNews.com ^ | May 10, 2019 | Gregg Re | Fox News

Posted on 05/10/2019 9:22:07 AM PDT by ETL

Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani said in an interview Thursday that he plans to travel to Ukraine to push the country's leadership on several probes that may prove "very, very helpful" to President Trump, as Republicans continue looking to turn the tables on Democrats and prove that they -- not the GOP -- were the party that improperly conspired with foreign actors.

Ukrainian President-elect Volodymyr Zelensky, who takes office in June, will assume stewardship of two major ongoing investigations. One concerns evidence that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton campaign may have worked with Ukrainians to illegally help Clinton by revealing damaging information about then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort.

The other investigation pertains to allegations that former Vice President Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor in order to take the heat off the prosecutor's probe into a company that employed his son as a board member.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: biden; giuliani; putin; putinistas; putinspuppets; realcollusionstory; russia; russiademocrats; threadspam; trump; trumpforeignpolicy; ukraine; urazzisspam; zelensky
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1 posted on 05/10/2019 9:22:07 AM PDT by ETL
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[RT (Russia Today) is a Russia state-owned and controlled propaganda media outlet -ETL]

From The Daily Caller, May 5, 2019

* Hunter Biden was appointed to the board of directors of a Ukranian company [Burisma] as part of an effort to recruit well-connected Americans while the company was under investigation, according to The New York Times.

* Then-Vice President Joe Biden played a role in pressuring Ukraine to oust the country’s top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was investigating the company, Burisma.

* Shokin’s successor initially ended the investigation into Burisma, but decided in March 2019 to reopen it.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/05/biden-ukraine-burisma-trump/

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From 2014...

The Federalist
May 13, 2014
Mollie Hemingway

"In late April, around the time the vice president made an official trip to Ukraine, Burisma allegedly appointed Devon Archer, one of Hunter Biden’s business partners, to its board as well.

Here’s a brief write-up on the story from the Moscow Times, an English-language news service based in Russia.

These dual announcements raise more questions than they answer. The prominence of the individuals involved — Hunter Biden is the vice president’s son, while Devon Archer was a major bundler for John Kerry and also his stepson’s college roommate

https://thefederalist.com/2014/05/13/9-questions-to-ask-about-bidens-work-with-a-gas-company-in-ukraine/

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Mykola Zlochevsky

Same article, Daily Caller, May 5, 2019

Burisma is a natural gas exploration and production company owned by Mykola Zlochevsky, a cabinet member of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich. [Viktor Yanukovich was Putin’s stooge in the Ukraine -ETL].

Yanukovich was removed from his position in February 2014.

He currently lives in exile in Russia and is wanted by Ukraine for high treason.

Zlochevsky later fled the country in late-2014 as Ukrainian prosecutors launched investigations into his time in public office as well as his private businesses.”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/05/biden-ukraine-burisma-trump/

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Viktor Yanukovych (Party of Regions), Putin's stooge in the Ukraine -ETL]

2 posted on 05/10/2019 9:22:26 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Fake Dossier, Uranium-1 Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Viktor Yanukovych vs Viktor Yushchenko

In 2004, as President Kuchma's term came to an end, [Viktor] Yushchenko announced his candidacy for president as an independent.

His major rival was Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych. ..."

The campaign was often bitter and violent.

Yushchenko became seriously ill in early September 2004.

He was flown to Vienna’s Rudolfinerhaus clinic for treatment and diagnosed with acute pancreatitis, accompanied by interstitial edematous changes, due to a serious viral infection and chemical substances that are not normally found in food products.

Yushchenko claimed that he had been poisoned by government agents.

After the illness, his face was greatly disfigured: jaundiced, bloated, and pockmarked.

British toxicologist Professor John Henry of St Mary’s Hospital in London declared the changes in Yushchenko’s face were due to chloracne, which results from dioxin poisoning.[17]

Dutch toxicologist Bram Brouwer also stated his changes in appearance were the result of chloracne, and found dioxin levels in Yushchenko’s blood 6,000 times above normal.[18]

On December 11, Dr. Michael Zimpfer of the Rudolfinerhaus clinic declared that Yushchenko had ingested TCDD dioxin and had 1,000 times the usual concentration in his body.[19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko#TCDD_poisoning

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Yushchenko, hero of Ukraine's Orange Revolution warns Europe that Putin won't stop at Crimea

by Matthew Schofield - McClatchy Foreign Staff
March 27, 2014

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Viktor Yushchenko

Many Ukrainians believe you need look no further than the face of Viktor Yushchenko to understand Russia's aggression against Ukraine.

Once smooth and ruggedly handsome, it still bears the scars from an assassination attempt when someone slipped dioxin into Yushchenko's food. ..."

Read more here:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24765781.html#storylink=cpy

3 posted on 05/10/2019 9:22:46 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Fake Dossier, Uranium-1 Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko

“Before becoming the chief prosecutor, [Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko] was a prominent activist against Russia’s influence in Ukraine during the tenure of Russia-backed President Viktor Yanukovych.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/top-prosecutor-probing-ukrainian-plot-to-boost-clinton-in-2016-election_2847598.html
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Viktor Yanukovych (Party of Regions), Putin's stooge in the Ukraine -ETL]

1 posted on 5/8/2019, 11:20:05 AM by ETL
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Daily Caller, May 5, 2019

* Hunter Biden was appointed to the board of directors of a Ukranian company [Burisma] as part of an effort to recruit well-connected Americans while the company was under investigation, according to The New York Times.

* Then-Vice President Joe Biden played a role in pressuring Ukraine to oust the country’s top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was investigating the company, Burisma.

* Shokin’s successor initially ended the investigation into Burisma, but decided in March 2019 to reopen it.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/05/biden-ukraine-burisma-trump/

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From the NY Times, March 2016...

Ukraine Ousts Viktor Shokin, Top Prosecutor, and Political Stability Hangs in the Balance

By Andrew E. Kramer
March 29, 2016


Viktor Shokin, who was ousted on Tuesday as prosecutor general of Ukraine.

MOSCOW — Bowing to pressure from international donors, the Ukrainian Parliament voted on Tuesday to remove a prosecutor general who had clung to power for months despite visible signs of corruption.

But in a be-careful-what-you-wish-for moment, veteran observers of Ukrainian politics said that the prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, had played an important role in balancing competing political interests, helping maintain stability during a treacherous era in the divided country’s history.

The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practices and for defending the interests of a venal and entrenched elite.

He was one of several political figures in Kiev whom reformers and Western diplomats saw as a worrying indicator of a return to past corrupt practices, two years after a revolution that was supposed to put a stop to self-dealing by those in power.

As the problems festered, Kiev drew increasingly sharp criticism from Western diplomats and leaders.

In a visit in December, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. said corruption was eating Ukraine “like a cancer.”

Christine Lagarde, the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, which props up Ukraine financially, said last month that progress was so slow in fighting corruption that “it’s hard to see how the I.M.F.-supported program can continue.” ...”

https://web.archive.org/web/20190506034018/https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/world/europe/political-stability-in-the-balance-as-ukraine-ousts-top-prosecutor.html?module=inline

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"Roughly two years after Hunter Biden’s appointment to Burisma’s board, the vice president traveled to Kiev, Ukraine’s capital, where he threatened that the U.S. would withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees unless Ukraine ousted its prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin.

At the time, Shokin was accused of ignoring corruption within his own political office.

But Shokin was also investigating corruption within Burisma."

https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/05/biden-ukraine-burisma-trump/

4 posted on 05/10/2019 9:23:02 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Fake Dossier, Uranium-1 Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Re: Obama-appointed U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, Marie Yovanovitch

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Marie Yovanovitch

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Top Ukrainian justice official [Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko] says US ambassador [Obama-appointee Marie Yovanovitch] gave him a do not prosecute list

Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko told Hill.TV’s John Solomon in an interview that aired Wednesday that U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine [Obama-appointee] Marie Yovanovitch gave him a do not prosecute list during their first meeting.

“Unfortunately, from the first meeting with the U.S. ambassador in Kiev, [Marie Yovanovitch] gave me a list of people whom we should not prosecute,” Lutsenko, who took his post in 2016, told Hill.TV last week.

“My response of that is it is inadmissible. Nobody in this country, neither our president nor our parliament nor our ambassador, will stop me from prosecuting whether there is a crime,” he continued.

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/434875-top-ukrainian-justice-official-says-us-ambassador-gave-him-a-do-not-prosecute

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In a Wednesday interview on Fox News' "Hannity," [Mar 20, 2019] former federal prosecutor Joe diGenova said that Yovanovitch needed to be removed from her position due to her actions under the Trump administration.

"The current United States ambassador Marie Yovanovitch has bad mouthed the President of the United States to Ukrainian officials and has told them not to listen or worry about Trump policy because he’s going to be impeached," diGenova said.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45035/calls-grow-remove-obamas-us-ambassador-ukraine-ryan-saavedra

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“Calls to remove former President Barack Obama’s U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine [Marie Yovanovitch] have intensified over the last week as a scandal in Ukraine surrounding the 2016 U.S. presidential election has started to gain more attention. ...”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45035/calls-grow-remove-obamas-us-ambassador-ukraine-ryan-saavedra

5 posted on 05/10/2019 9:23:19 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Fake Dossier, Uranium-1 Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Obama White House counsel Gregory Craig

“Kostiantyn Kulyk, deputy head of Ukraine’s prosecutor general’s international affairs office, said that investigators had evidence that a number of Western figures, such as Obama White House counsel Gregory Craig, also received money from the Party of Regions, the party of ousted Ukranian President Viktor Yanukovych, an ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Craig was recently indicted for allegedly lying about his dealings with Ukraine.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-says-clinton-and-obama-administration-links-with-ukraine-should-be-investigated_2896213.html

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"Prosecutors who brought charges against Craig, the former Obama White House counsel, focused on a Ukrainian businessman who was also a major donor to Clinton’s organization, the Clinton Foundation, The Epoch Times reported earlier in April."

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-says-clinton-and-obama-administration-links-with-ukraine-should-be-investigated_2896213.html

6 posted on 05/10/2019 9:23:38 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Fake Dossier, Uranium-1 Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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GREAT WORK..!


7 posted on 05/10/2019 9:27:59 AM PDT by gaijin
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Say Goodnight, Joe.


8 posted on 05/10/2019 9:30:51 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I’d avoid this. They are likely to just collect as much BS as was in the dossier. They have enough without this to nail the appropriate folks to the cross. Adding Ukranian disinformation to the mix will only reduce the credibility of the Barr investigation.


9 posted on 05/10/2019 9:31:52 AM PDT by fruser1
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The Republicans don’t talk about this or Hillary with Russia or Obama interfering with Israel’s election. McConnell on Hannity was talking about the small number of Russians that hacked the 2016 Election and how the probe was worth it.


10 posted on 05/10/2019 9:35:05 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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Rudy just wants to get laid. Those women are beautiful.


11 posted on 05/10/2019 9:39:03 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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I’d avoid this. They are likely to just collect as much BS as was in the dossier.

Hopefully, Giuliani, as I've done here, is going to connect the dots and collect the evidence that this whole entire mess revolves around **Democrat-Russia** collusion, including what happened in the Ukraine.

As for the dossier,...

AG Bill Barr: 'I'm Concerned' the Steele Dossier Was Part of Russia's Disinformation Campaign

PJMedia.com ^ | May 1, 2019 | Tyler O'Neil

On Wednesday, [May 1, 2019] Attorney General William Barr testified that he is “concerned” about the Trump-Russia dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele and paid for by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) asked Barr whether or not the Department of Justice (DOJ) could confirm that the Steele dossier was not part of the disinformation campaign Russia used to interfere in the 2016 presidential election.

“How do we know that the Steele dossier is not itself evidence of the Russian disinformation campaign, knowing what we know now that basically the allegations made therein were second-hand, hearsay, or unverified,” Cornyn stated, referring to key claims in the dossier that the report from Special Counsel Robert Mueller disproved, such as the claim that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen traveled to Prague.

“Can you state with confidence that the Steele dossier was not part of the Russian disinformation campaign?” Cornyn asked.

“No, I can’t state that with confidence and that is one of the areas that I’m reviewing,” Barr replied. “I’m concerned about it and I don’t think it’s entirely speculative.”

If Russia had a hand in the Steele dossier, that would imply that Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the DNC either worked with Russians or were duped by the Russians in their disinformation campaigns.

It would mean that the real “collusion” with Russia may have been on the Clinton side, rather than the Trump side.

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July 2017...

[Dossier] Democrats intentionally used disinformation from Russia to attack Trump, campaign aides

By Rowan Scarborough
The Washington Times
July 11, 2017

While the mainstream news media hunts for evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, the public record shows that Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the presidential election against Donald Trump and attack his administration.

The disinformation came in the form of a Russian-fed dossier written by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele. It contains a series of unverified criminal charges against Mr. Trump’s campaign aides, such as coordinating Moscow’s hacking of Democratic Party computers.

Some Democrats have widely circulated the discredited information.

Mr. Steele was paid by the Democrat-funded opposition research firm Fusion GPS with money from a Hillary Clinton backer.

Fusion GPS distributed the dossier among Democrats and journalists. The information fell into the hands of the FBI, which used it in part to investigate Mr. Trump’s campaign aides.

Mr. Steele makes clear that his unproven charges came almost exclusively from sources linked to the Kremlin and Russian President Vladimir Putin. He identified his sources as “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure,” a former “top level Russian intelligence officer active inside the Kremlin,” a “senior Kremlin official” and a “senior Russian government official.”

The same Democrats who have condemned Russia’s election interference via plying fake news and hacking email servers have quoted freely from the Steele anti-Trump memos derived from creatures of the Kremlin.

In other words, there is public evidence of significant, indirect collusion between Democrats and Russian disinformation...”

Continued at source...

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/11/democrats-spread-false-russian-information-on-trum/

Or,

https://web.archive.org/web/20170902055857/http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/11/democrats-spread-false-russian-information-on-trum/

12 posted on 05/10/2019 9:41:19 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Fake Dossier, Uranium-1 Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Thanks.

I knew from the get-go that it was absurd that the Russians would have wanted a strong-on-defense team like Trump-Pence, over a pathetically weak democrat one, given how much Obama-Clinton did to strengthen their hand and significantly weaken ours, particularly at this time when the Russians are on the move in eastern Europe and the Middle East.

Putin’s long-term goal is to basically bring back the Soviet Union, or something damn close to it. The last thing on earth he would want at this time is very strong United States.

See my FR Profile page to see the many things that Obama-Hillary did to help the Russians in this mission, vs all that Trump-Pence did to reverse it, and then-some!


13 posted on 05/10/2019 9:57:33 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Fake Dossier, Uranium-1 Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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I’d avoid this. They are likely to just collect as much BS as was in the dossier. They have enough without this to nail the appropriate folks to the cross. Adding Ukranian disinformation to the mix will only reduce the credibility of the Barr investigation.

Interesting take on this


14 posted on 05/10/2019 10:04:41 AM PDT by samtheman (To steal an election, who do you collude with? Russians in Russia or Mexicans in California?)
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I wish Rudy would wait until SleepyCreepy has nomination.


15 posted on 05/10/2019 10:13:15 AM PDT by freedom1st (Build the Wall)
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Rudy sees it too!! This scandal centers on DEMOCRATS AND PRO-RUSSIA people in the Ukraine!!

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https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1126858889209831424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fgiuliani-will-travel-to-ukraine-saying-countrys-probes-may-be-very-very-helpful-for-trump

16 posted on 05/10/2019 10:15:55 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Fake Dossier, Uranium-1 Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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yes. hat tip ETL

very enlightening post on the ukes.

here's an excerpt I liked:

“Burisma is a natural gas exploration and production company owned by Mykola Zlochevsky, a cabinet member of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich. [Viktor Yanukovich was Putin’s stooge in the Ukraine -ETL].

Yanukovich was removed from his position in February 2014.

He currently lives in exile in Russia and is wanted by Ukraine for high treason.

Zlochevsky later fled the country in late-2014 as Ukrainian prosecutors launched investigations into his time in public office as well as his private businesses.”

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what a bunch of snakes that the Biden boys & Hildabeast are wrapped up with.

17 posted on 05/10/2019 11:07:02 AM PDT by thinden
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Yes, the Ukraine scandal centers on Democrats and PRO-RUSSIA people in the Ukraine! Not the folks being threatened by Russia there, as many if not most media, including conservative talk radio and TV, commentators might have you think or assume. Hopefully, Rudy’s comments will wake them up to this important detail.


18 posted on 05/10/2019 11:14:06 AM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! Fake Dossier, Uranium-1 Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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Rudy just wants to get laid. Those women are beautiful.

But I thought the FR concensus was that Rudy is gay?

(color me confused)

19 posted on 05/10/2019 11:39:21 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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As they say, “Karma’s a Hillary.”


20 posted on 05/10/2019 11:42:39 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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